[YourMum]

Hi folks! Mum posts again...

Yep. There are some pieces I draw yesterday when I tried to improve my technique. These are quite quickies. Used time from 5 mins to 10 mins. The quality of the scans is bad again. So... I would like to hear your comments about these because I can't find good way of technique. Perhaps it would be nice to see some redraw of some piece of some of these sketches which could help to point out different style to draw - shading technique and stuff like that. If someone of gurus has enough time to redraw - even quickly. Well, I know the basics weel but I try hard to find my own drawing and line style. So please, crit and feedback would be very welcome. Thanks.





-Juha-

[toast!]

Hi yourmum (uh ? ),

the first ones are very nice , the shading technique is ok and proportions are more respected than on the other ones

oh and another thing , i have seen your pics since you joined the forum and it s clear you have improved a lot , keep posting, it seems that you are getting better each day.

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Toast

[Solitaire]

huh, if that are your quickies, I'd like to see some of the other stuff, they're quite good and espescially the first heads are far beyond sketching!

[samdragon]

first off, good job. I'm glad to see people improving thier skills and working hard at this stuff. it will certianly pay off for you.

Second,
these are just suggestions, do not take these as "this is the only way" these images are just how I sometimes do studies or sketches before i attempt the final image.
These are based off of one of the images you have above.


The first one is a very quicky so i can get a basic understanding of the lighting and where it might fall. Probably a matter of seconds as far as work time...

Next I try to work out the proportions alittle bit.

The next one in the line is where I'm trying to figure out the bone structure, this will help me pick out the hot/hard spots on the face, where the bone is close to the skin. It also shows me if this face is humanly possible.

the last one is another noodeling of the proportions, as you can see they are off a little bit, which ok, it gives the face more character. I wanted to make this into a female face so I based it on circles for that rounded look. The large lips and high cheeks also help. I wasn't worried about the neck too much. I just want to get some real quick things down for ya too look at.
Again, this is not a set in stone way. I guess if your learning as much as you can, it can't hurt to see someone elses way of working.

Ok, now your turn...
My suggestion for you is to work on some of the individual elements of the face..Nose, eye, cheeks, lips etc. Do a full page of these at different angles and lighting. The eye isn't just an elipse with a cirle in it, it's way more than that. Learn how the eye is shaped and how it pushes the skin out with the eyelids and where it sets in the socket of the skul. As for the nose, you seem to have a pretty good handle on it. But it can't hurt to practice more on it.
Lips are pretty simple do once you figure it out, but you should practice more on male and female lips. Also learn what the visual difference between a man's face and woman's face are.

maybe if fred or some of the others get more time,they will come in here and help you out.
Good luck and keep us up to date on your progress.

[jasonN]

Samdragon, that was a cool little tutorial thing. Very interesting. Thanks for posting it!

Youmum: Nice sketches
However, in a lot of them, they seem a little shakey. I don't really know how to define it, but once you've got the face down (which you have done nicely) got back and give some edges a more solid line. Not the whole face, but just in key areas. They will strengthen your images.

For shading, try using a typical HB pencil with a blunt edge. The varied line can do wonders. And the fat lines you can get are very expressive.

-Jason

[Fred Flick Stone]

I have to hurry off to get some things done. But what I wanted to ask was is there photo reference for any of these, or did you draw them from life? Can you post the reference if there is any?

These aren't bad to start off with. Thesy aren't bad at all if they are 5 minute gestures. There is one thing in a lot of them though in that you have a lean in all the faces or at least the faces that are facing straight ahead. Are you leaning on one arm when you draw, or lean to the side of your table? THis might be causing the skewing, otherwise, you just need to pay more attention to the balance of both sides of the faces you are drawing.

YOu could also use a little less half tone in the faces. There isn't much in the way of indication of direction of light because you have laid in too many half tones all over.

But, you have a very keen sense of shape, and that is why most of these have very distinct recognizeable character to them. I will try and do some redraws when I get a moment, till then I have to get going.

Again, post the reference if there is any, otherwise I will try what I can with your images, but without knowing what I am looking at, all I am doing is fixing technical issues.

ANyhow, great job on these, and I hope you are doing these everyday.

[Dean Welsh]

WHOA! I just have to say. the last guy on the first batch looks almost exactly like me!

Are you stalking me YourMum? <-that sounds weird.

[YourMum]

Hey again! Nice to see you have given me some crit. Great! I'm sorry that I haven't time to reply.. I was at my friend's summer cottage in north last weekend.

toast, Sloitaire: Thanks.

samdragon: thanks abbout your technique show and advices. I like that. Hey, you got nice sketches there. I have to say that I have practiced those individual parts of face from different angles and stuff like that. Now I'm seeking for nice whole. Though that's a good practice and helps a lot.

jasonN:Thanks.I know... these look shakey. These are just sketches where I tried to get cool shading and nice surface for them. That's all. :]

Fred Flick Stone: Thansk a lot. I hope you had time enough. :] Hmm... some of these heads I drew from my imagination [the beard guy for instance :]] but I also used photos for reference. I'm sorry I haven't them scanned. I'll do it and post example photos. :I I hope I got your point right but I think I'm leaning on one arm when drawing. Yep. I think that it could be good thing if I would draw some portrait to the bigger size... if I would use A4 paper for instance. he scale of these images is 1:1. I drew these to the size you can see on your screen. I think it's not a good thing. :I

Btw, I posted some other sketches before this weekend. There are some different quickies too.
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/006302.html

And here were some facial expressions of duck. :] Please, check these out if you have time.
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/006341.html

Dean Welsh: thanks. Hehe... I remember that he's Mr. DiCaprio.. Yeah. I'm stalking you... you're under my hawk-eyes. I'm everywhere. :]

Thanks for everyone who gave comments. I appreciate that. I'll fathom your advices and comments.

-Juha-