[tyron]

Hi again... Almost feel a bit guilty, this is my third picture posted the last three days... This creative period wont keep up long though..

Anyways, i did this sketch today and i think i'm gonna aim high this time..
It's about 4000x3000 pixels big and i will print it someday, i hope.

Since the ambition is so high this time, i want it to be as good as i can make it.

So, my question is, is there anything you would change? (I know there's some small anatomy errors, but maybe you can point them out if i've missed any?)
How do i make it more intresting?
I've got some background ideas which i do not really like, do you have any?
Maybe i should change the entire pose?



As I told you, it's only a sketch at the moment..

Thanks anyhow..

[This message has been edited by tyron (edited November 09, 2000).]

[zthee]

hello.

hhm..

feedback.
the lower part of his body needs to be much longer, the legs should be 2/3 of the body not 1/3
and this small error makes his arms look to long, and if you have the shoulders on the same line his elbows should be at the same line too. i think you should put his eyeline a little bit further down.

about the rest of the image
i think you could maybe put him into a more dynamic pose? or maybe just put some action into his wings, the look so dead if they are just gonna hang there.

i've always wondered how they get dress with those wings on thier backs..?

keep it going.

[tyron]

hmm.. you may be right... the legs is probably a bit short.. didn't see that...
I have no idea about the wings =).
dunno about the action on the wings, he's supposed to stand still, staring at the horizon. but maybe i'll change that if someone comes up with anythin..
thanks alot anyway!

more oppinion, thoughts or feedback would be appreciated though.

[This message has been edited by tyron (edited November 09, 2000).]

[Solitaire]

What about turning the view, give him a more heroic pose.
I did a quicky to illustrate what Io meant...

[Isric]

Here's my take. i added color just to distinguish the different areas.
I sharpened the wings, made the head smaller, added a bit of calm pride to his stance. hope this gives you a few more ideas.

[tyron]

Thanks guys!
that's exactly the kind of feedback i was looking for.. both of your pictures gives me new ideas..

still dont'know what to do for background though...

[tyron]

I redid it again from the start.. this is what i came up with...


oops, just realized, the head is way too small huh?

[Solitaire]

The hands and wings are much better now. But if it's windy there, it would also have effect to the clothes, not only the hair.
About the background, well, what was your first thought that lead to this angel...
an apocalyptic topic or sth. about relief in a christian way; a special passage in bible or mythologies?
Well just question, why he's standing there with a sword and his obviously deep anger (in his eyes): Armageddon maybe - that would be the easiest setting I can imagine.

[tyron]

Thanks solitaire. your idea on a background gave me another idea which i will use

It's not supposed to be a very christian image though.. i'm an atheist. noone in my family is even baptized..

the one who waits will see this finished..
i hope.

[Frost]

Tyron, and others where applicable...

When reading some tutorials or help on Craig Mullins' and hearing them say it's prefferable to work in high res, one should note that working in high resolution is only an advantage when refining an image, adding pixel detail, etc. Working on a simple outline sketch in such resolutions is a waste of time and effort, better start off sketching in a resolution you are comfortable with, and only when you have it sketched out or even after putting down the basic colors and values should you increase the resolution for refinement and preparation for the final image. Unless you sketch a high-res image in 25% zoom or so, you will most likely get lost in your sketching.

You probably already knew that, but, seeing a line sketch at that res just makes me twitch somewhat. =)

[tyron]

If i increase the resolution after i have made the sketch, doesn't the lines get a bit blurry then?

[RobT]

You're newer sketch is a much better improvement.



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[Frost]

Tyron; Yes it would, however, if you plan of making a finished painting, the sketch should just be there to give form (just guidelines). It of course all depends what your intentions are... I interpreted that "i did this sketch today and i think i'm gonna aim high this time.. It's about 4000x3000 pixels big and i will print it someday, i hope." meant that you wanted to paint it in color and texture and all - I could have been wrong. =)

[tyron]

Ohh yeah.. didn't think of that..
although, i think i will use the black lines on the finished painting...
the real sketch is actually on paper, i scanned it and redrew the lines in 4000x3000. that may sound odd, but it worked good for me.