[Isric]

This was a 45 minuit picture. I've been really experimenting a lot with different techniques.
What do you think?

[Binke]

Hey, I like that, very nice n moody. The background almost looks like it was painted with oils or similar.

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Art Dimensional

[YourMum]

Hey, Isric! This is really nice in 45 mins. I like a perspective you got to it. Good one.

-Juha-

[spooge demon]

maybe this will help with the deck perspective

[Loukus]

sweet! don't mind if I wallpaper it, do ya?

JL

[Jenn]

Hey, That looks kewl.. Maybe a little blue in it will help :d hehee

It will be nice to see what else you do to this one.

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DarkChyld

[Isric]

Thank you very much guys. Everything has been noted. Man I love this place.

Kinda weird how you can think of this as a PLACE isn't it?

[Isric]

[edit] sorry, double post.

[This message has been edited by Isric (edited November 01, 2000).]

[Cos]

hey isric, really nice pic. Love the guys sillouette(sp?).

The background looks flat compared to the deck tho, a bit like a cardboard cutout. Would be worth putting more detail into it cause the pic has alot of potential.

Keep up the good work

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-Cos Koniotis-

http://www.3dpalette.org/~coskoniotis

[Sergenth]

Super-dee-dupertee!

45 mins... that's a nice time. It just took me 4 hours to color one of Francis' pics.

I really like the color projection from red in the background to orange to yellow on the deck.

The mountains on the left side that climb all the way to the top -- they look a little funny. I can't pin point it in words, sorry :P Maybe hack them off at shoulder level... test how that looks.

[Axl]

Isric like the pic. Very moody, great earthy tones. I like misty look of the picture and the way everything is almost in sillouette.

[micke]

And you're only seventeen?
I hate you

-Micke

[Void]

I think a one-word response is in order:

Awesome

[Snake Grunger]

Micke - One who has struggled hard to learn art (or anything else for that matter) develops an ingenious mind more than someone who has a natural talent. I'm not saying you suck, Isric, I hope you know what you're doing and always want to learn more stuff as you go along in your life as an artist (or anything else, if that's not what you want).

One example that would showcase this theory that comes to my mind is if we compare spooge demon and Synj. Let's say, we take a random pic from each artist, let's say Spooge's whitehouse and Synj's Amidala (two pics in recent msg board memory) and ask both artists: Ok, we have formatted your webspace and harddrive, now you have to redo that picture.

Spooge will be most likely able to reproduce the same exact image he had done previously, while I'm sure Synj would not remember how he did it because it came to him naturally in the matter of 30 seconds, and after comparing his original pic and his new one, we'd notice he did not use the exact same technique.

This means you have to be grateful for having such a rationnal mind, because you are a more versatile and "technified" artist, while the one who never spent more than 60 seconds drawing a picture is theoredically less ingenious, because he never sat down and come to an absolute rationnal conclusion regarding the technique(s) he is using.

Of course, I'm generalizing here, but that's the only good example that comes to my mind. Now don't you come and say I'm a faschist bastard that promotes non-equality amongst the human race!

Humans are NOT equal, ever. Noone has the same face, the same grades, the same ammount of money in the bank account, the same intellectual faculties, the same notority, etc. That doesn't imply racism, it implies a 1 HUMAN VS 1 OTHER HUMAN basis. The only way every human being is equal (in a democratic society of course), is that one can accomplish things in life by working, studying and thinking and end promoting one's self over the line he was stuck at yesterday.

Enough Kant philosophy for today!

[This message has been edited by Snake Grunger (edited November 03, 2000).]

[CapnPyro]

Anything you can do, I can do better. Anything you can do I can do better than you.



for those lacking a sense of humour, i was umm... joking.

-Capn

[Sumaleth]

Nice picture Isric.

Apart from the things already suggested I would also recomment looking at how you've rendered the outer rim of the balcony - it seems to be quite a different style to the rest of the image.

--

(Wanna know how much of a pathetic Spooge fanboy I am? I saved that picture to my harddrive.)

Row.

[Sumaleth]

(Just spotted that post by Snake.)

Snake;

Thats an interesting point you make there but I believe that skill you call "natural talent" is instead a developed skill that is being used -intuatively-.

What I mean is that I don't think Synj's art is the result of "natural talent", I think you'd find it's the end result of his experiences and practicing throughout life, just as any well developed skill is.

I also think that Spooge would probably fit well into the same catagory as Synj, in that his art is also largely an intuative thing now rather than something conciously worked out.

(correct me if I'm wrong Spooge..)

But it is interesting to make that comparison between intuative art and art that is "worked out".

Row.

[Jaymo]

Hey Isric, beautiful! I DO like the steppy background, reminds me of these nice parallax scrollers on the amiga...good mood, too!

[Snake Grunger]

Sumaleth - Spooge said it himself if I remember correctly, that all he knows, he can teach. You are right when saying art is somewhat intuitive, but what remains is that spooge masters every technique aspect in an image, let's say perspective, lighting, texture, etc.. What can be intuitive (subjective is the right word here) for that matter is that the one doing the drawing/painting DECIDES what textures, perspective, lighting to use. While in synj's case, which doesn't shade or texture (well, in 3d yes, but not 2d), and just does cartoons, he doesn't know why he does the shapes he does, etc. I also quote spooge on synj's case saying "Synj has a natural talent, he just _KNOWS_ what's good."

Oh well

[Verantartist]

Hmm looks to me like you have bene playing around with the Top Cow coloring tutorials...anyways the background layers are to flat. I suspect in that lighting the distant background would fog off more and shadows would be deeper.....over all it looks good though and I like the colors

[tanis]

Great pic Isric! I like the mood of this one.