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Jenn
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 1:40 pm     Reply with quote
niiiiiiice I bet hes realy cute

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 2:24 pm     Reply with quote
Great sketch I like the painterly look!
I't does leave me wondering what he is looking at. Those yellow and red bushes seem very interesting to this guy.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 3:04 pm     Reply with quote
Hi again again FlintHawk !!!

I see that you keep on working with your own painting. The results of that time are really good. I can see a lot of new things plus old things updated !!! (i like the bow !!!)

I agree with the guys about the focus. Those yellow and orange trees seems really interesting to this archer...

What�s up with those trees?

Is it the magical plant which will give the Hero the inmortality?
Or it will save her cursed wife from a secure dead?

Such an epic escenography lets the viewer believe that the hero has arrived, after a hard quest, to his final target.

It�s overall because of the high color of that part of the picture aims your eyes. You�re playing in the whole picture with a similar color and this sintony is breaked with those "gaudy" plants...

Although this effect is a bit oddy, to me it ads interest and charism to the picture... in fact i like a lot how the whole picture is growing !!!

Congratulations!!!
Yopu keep on resisting the urge of use the Demon tools !!!

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I have just post two colored versions from Francis chick. I will be vey happy if you check them... (one is a "burn-and-dodge" intensive... again !!!)
http://www.sijun.com/dhabih/ubb/Forum2/HTML/006095-2.html

See ya.
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DarkBlade
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 3:32 pm     Reply with quote
I like... it's awesome.

What's he looking at? Particularly such that he'd DROP his bow?
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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 3:45 pm     Reply with quote
Flexible Elf- thanks, there's something about volumetric light that I've always liked.

Tinusch, CapnPyro, Shadowman, Sempere - you all brought up the point that I was hoping to get discussed here. My original idea had him looking down on a camp of bandits/poachers sitting around their campfire at night. I scraped that idea after drawing in the background some more and finding that I wanted to get a sunlight breaking through the trees look. Plus the view didn't make a visible ground plane possible I thought. After I got the background in there I looked and saw that everything looked a little too plain (the red and orange trees weren't in there) and I wanted to put something more into the image to help draw the eye across the entire image. I added the tree at the upper right and then decided that I needed to balance that blast of color with a similar one in the opposite corner. Don't know if my thinking was right on that but I liked the effect. After adding the bow and finishing up some details I realized that indeed, everything was pointing at that patch of trees and it's that area that I'm trying to think of something to do with. Perhaps a break in the trees that reveals something interesting...we'll see. But thanks for proving my thoughts on having to do something there.

Jenn - he's got that ruggedly handsome look The original idea had him facing the screen but I started painting him facing away to include the subject he was looking at. I guess not seeing his face helps indicate Flint's mysterious nature per his design.

and Sempere - no, nothing magical about the trees, heh, but good idea though. As I mentioned above I hope to come up with something interesting to put there to complete this image. Nice job on the chick coloring, too. I'd suggest giving a try to actually painting the values instead of dodge and burning now...I'm finding it rather fun and rewarding by actually thinking about the colors I'm using to create light and shadow.

Thanks for the comments all. They're really helping me think things through. Keep 'em coming.

-Flinthawk

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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 3:49 pm     Reply with quote
you snuck a comment in, DarkBlade.

Thanks for the compliment and he didn't drop his bow, he only put it down for a moment to get a better look at what I'll eventually put down there and prepare for the battle to come.

-Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 3:50 pm     Reply with quote
to me he looks like he has stoped dead in his tracks, like hes heard something ahead and is just crouching there listening for approaching enemies.
i love the pic
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 5:02 pm     Reply with quote
Hmm I liek the picture very much, but I think you have to work on the depth of the image. It doesn't look right, it seems as if he is on a root or sumthing, not a branch. Around the place where he's looking, make sumthing so people can relate to theheight that he is poached. perhaps little people or a head or sumthing showing what height he's at. Hope this helps!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 6:19 pm     Reply with quote
Very Very good, [right click --> save pic as]
Love it.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 6:26 pm     Reply with quote
Great picture, I love it also.

Crit's; I also thought he was on a root until I read otherwise, maybe the yellow and red patches are too bright and they're coming into the foreground. Just needs a little depth. Aslo, it looks as if the bow is doing some kind of wierd balancing act ... is my monitor too dark to see another branch there??

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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 6:48 pm     Reply with quote
Zaph0d, aNoah - thanks for the praise, glad you like the image so far.

Dryfire - I know exactly what you mean...I'm not too pleased with the depth I've created so far. I think part of it was the fact that I got carried away when I started putting detail into the trees back there. I should probably lose some of the detail to 'blur' it some and make some room for what I'm going to put down in that area where those bright colored trees are right now. I'm hoping to make it look like he's fairly high up.

garthmidgley - yup, your monitor is probably a bit dark (or mine too bright) but that's no excuse. I'll probably go in and add some space underneath the branch to show that that's what it is. My only excuse for the bow is that it was the last thing I threw in there and it was 4 in the morning =) I've got to fix that when I return to this pic.

Thanks all

-Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 9:40 pm     Reply with quote
Beautiful. That's a tough pose to pull off. Looks like you nailed it, though
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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 10:02 pm     Reply with quote
Hehe, Elam, you can probably imagine how hard it was to pose for myself in a mirror when the pose calls for looking away from me. I need to get a digital camera...

-Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 02, 2000 11:24 pm     Reply with quote
I didn't read any comments yet, but do have any idea how PERFECT that lighting is?!! The background lighting is....buh...save file.
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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:33 am     Reply with quote
Tell me what you think...



I posted the beginnings of this in a thread a week ago. I just got a few hours last night to work on it some more. I think I'm nearing completion on this but I'd like to see what people think about what more could be done to this before I wrap this particular image up. Thanks.

-Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:35 am     Reply with quote
Nice work. Those sunbeams really give the painting a nice mood.

-Flexible Elf

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:44 am     Reply with quote
That's really cool. I think you should give it a focal point, though. What is he looking at? Looks like there should be something right there in the middle that he's staring at.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 12:54 am     Reply with quote
It looks like hes pondering the red and yellow, cause i know i am. Alright folks, ill be here all week. No, seriously though, the sunbeam leads your eye down to a dark figure then immediatly your eye shoots right and focus's on the bright red and yellow plants. Id do... something with them

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 5:18 am     Reply with quote
doesnt it look like he has two different gloves? Or is it meant to be like that?

Anyhow I looooooove this pic!!
Keep it going!
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Flinthawk
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2000 10:16 am     Reply with quote
Isric - I'm not quite sure I got the lighting right but I thought long and hard about it. Glad you like it.

Yes, Slicer, the gloves are both different for good reason...nice observation. The left one is there to protect his forearm from string slap after firing his bow but it needs to be wrapped tight so as not to interfere with his shot. The right glove serves as a falconer's glove for his falcon companion. Call me a nut but I like fleshing out details of my characters to make them functional and interesting at the same time. I'll have to do another image that shows the design of this character off better.

Gah, what am I doing posting when I should be working to finish this pic?
I just like this forum too much =)

-Flinthawk
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