[micke]

Doing natural poses takes skills and time
and you have to find a 3d-model that is very realistic.
If you cant get to a figure drawing class i would strongly suggest you draw your friends.
Then you will get some lessons on how to draw folds, etc..
Believe me, drawing from 3d models will not learn you the right way at all.

[Skeezer]

Besides drawing your friends it helps to have a large mirror to pose in front of. No one can do the pose that you want more accurately than you can. However it does make it more difficult to draw at the same time, but that's what photographic memory is for.

Plus if you use yourself than you don't have to wait for the model to understand what you're talking about.

Not to put models down. It's good to use them too.

Hope that helps.

[Affected]

I have yet to see a poser model in a natural-looking pose...

[phreaknasty]

its kinda funny, i've been formulating a similar such a post for a couple of days now. i wasn't sure if i was going to it but since you brought up the idea let me put my spin on it.

i've been going over bridgman's book for the last couple of days now and i've found it pretty useful for getting interesting dynamic poses, as well as getting a since of mass and balance. for those you haven't seen the book, much of it goes over twisting, turning and positioning the mass of the head, the chest and the pelvic to imbue your pose with rhythm and movement. in the book he suggests making a mannequin of sorts, very simple, with only a couple of moving parts, that can aid in exploring his approach. that got me thinking....

1)do any of you use or recommend the use of the traditional artists mannequin to get basic info about pose, perspective and lighting....

2)and if so wouldn't a simplified 3d version, more akin perhaps to bridgman's aid in the construction of figures.

i defiantly agree that programs such as poser are only bound to get you into a world of hurt since the detail these programs provide far out pace their ability to deal with the intricacies of human anatomy and the flexing and contraction of muscles and their interplay. however much in the way that setting up a simple scene in your favorite 3d program can help you lay out composition and perspective, it seems to me that a simplified model might aid in "figure drawing."

what do you guys think?

[skullighter]

Most people I talk to about figure drawing say drawing from life is the only way. I can't get into a figure drawing class right now, so I'm wondering if using a 3d model in something like 3dMax would work all the same? Is it easy to put them into differen't poses? Is this a good idea in the first place?

[eetu]

affected here's a natural(ist?:) poser
pose for you http://katastro.fi/~iiro/baroni.html

*grin*

eetu.

[Sempere]

Brrrrrr.....

"Poser" models scare me... brrr...

I�m so scared...

Oh! my god ! ... What a pitiful 3D-people... they are sooooo plastic...

I only like the skeletons... at less they haven�t those Kent&Barbie faces...

And, as Affected said is impossible to get a natural pose from a "poser"

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If you have some friend or family who you can convince to pose for you it would be a great idea (but usually, friends aren�t convinced easily to do it )

The best way is (If you have one) drawing your girlfriend. It�s a looooooooot better !!!

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Ah!, I would use a videocamera before Poser, you will be your "poser-model" and your TV your "monitor"...


[This message has been edited by Sempere (edited October 30, 2000).]

[phreaknasty]

in an effort to avoid additional topics on an already cluttered forum i've decided to leech onto our fine friend skull's post. but nobody seems to want to comment. don't make me start a new thread.