[Simon Gustafsson]

I will get myself a copy of BGII soon and I thought it would be nice to have a homemade portrait for my character =). these are only halfmade but I think I need some directions before I start detailing further. What looks ok & what looks wrong? what should I think of the next time I do a portrait?
I used a photoreference for the first one look here - http://www.freebox.com/simn/pose2dphoto.jpg I took the photo myself ecpecially for the painting.
This is the first time I used a photoref for a pic.



I have trouble to get the eyes right on this other one. what to do?



Have you made any custom portraits for BG? Post it here!

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[Isric]

Jason Manley can probably help you. Ask him! Mr. Manley!! Where are you?
(for those of you you just tuned in, Jason Manly is the artist who makes those portraits, I think our guest is in for a big surprise. lets watch..)

Naw, you probably already know he's a member here. VERY well done. I reall like that first one. The atmoshpere is incredible. I don't see anything wrong with it.




[This message has been edited by Isric (edited October 23, 2000).]

[Binke]

I like the first one, you got some nice colors there. Although I think it lacks depth. It looks like he is standing infront of a painted wall to me.
A tip is to add some small whites in the eyes, to define the pupils a little. Imo it shouldnt be completely black , even though the shadows fall down there.

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[Sumaleth]

As Binke says, I think the eye sockets need some detail (as you see in Jason's images). I also think that the shadow under the bottom lip looks too heavy for his face which makes the lip look like it's sticking out too far. I'd lower the value of that shadow.

Row.

[Anthony]

The colors in the first pic are really like an old oil painting. Very nice. You just need to keep working at it. For the eyes, you have the color much too deep there, considering the sort of ambient lighting in the picture in general. Lighten it up under his eyes, lighten up his eye whites a bit, add a noticable highlight on the top right of each, and add a lighter line on the top left of each eye for eyelids. Should help.

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Carpe Carpem

[Simon Gustafsson]

thank you Isric. Of course I know who Jason is, and that he posts here =)

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[Simon Gustafsson]

Another one. I know the hair looks like bullshit. Havent figured out how to make proper hair yet. Something about the mouth is also strange but I cant see what. Can you?
No photoreference for this one either. But I guess that shows.

[Tinusch]

You're awesome, man. I think your pics would be amazing if you kept tightening them up with small brushes. I agree with Binke on the first one, about the depth, but aside from that it looks really good. The second one is cool, it looks almost exactly like the singer for MxPx. That last one is great. Looks really tight and clean.

[phreaknasty]

i really like the the first image. the background and color selection give it a nice, painted antique look. that trees pretty sweet.

the lighting on the latter portrait is very nice, but as you pointed out the hair needs a little work. i also think that her face is a bit too oval. i scaled her width down a bit to illustrate my point

i also lightened up her eyes and mussed her hair.
nice work, i'd love to see more in the style of the first one.

are you getting you pallets from some source our are you "mixing" them on your own?

[This message has been edited by phreaknasty (edited October 25, 2000).]

[Jason Manley]

not a bad start at all...you have a good feel on the top one...now all it needs is a little tlc and rendering to make it look like you really cared about it making a strong piece...just a bit more TLC

get some reference for the head...find a master painting with a similar palette and look at it closely.

your eyes look like doll eyes...give the character a bit more life in the eyes and expression...even quiet expressions can glow with life...look at the mona lisa and you will see what I mean...rembrandt is the best at that...life in the paint...

look at rembrandt and sargents eyes...you cant see all the details..they are simplified a bit...simple with expression.

Jason

[sweedberg]

My art teacher told me the part of the face that is above the eyes es equally high to the one that is below the eyes; ie, the eyes are splitting the face right in the middle...

She mingt be right, but it's late right now, and I'm not awake enough to redraw anything...I'll just leave it the way it is...I think it will look better if it follows that rule though...

[Simon Gustafsson]

Thanks for the feedback!

Phreaknasty: I mix my own colors yes.. I have made my own Swatches.

Jason: I�m sorry but I dont think I am familiar with the term TLC.




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[Jason Manley]

Ya know "tender love and care"

really get in there and care about all of it.

Dont overwork it though...jsut spend some time in the focal areas.


jason

[spooge demon]

I think you have lost the gesture that is in your photo. The pelvis and right hip are thrust out. You have aligned them vertically, losing the ease of the pose. The torso is inclined away and behind the pelvis.


Also, look more carefully at your photo ref. You have given the forehead, brow and cheeks and nose all the same value. If the lighting is diffuse above, there should be a difference between them.

Wait a minute..



Feel your nose, the top plane, and then your cheeks. Not only are the cheeks somewhat shaded by the brow in this diffuse situation, but the angle of the plane of the nose faces upwards much more so than the cheeks. The nose even faces more upwards than the forehead. It should be your lightest light, as I think you can see from your reference.

[Simon Gustafsson]

Thanks for the tips Spooge. Though I should probably say I only used the photo for the first lines and never looked at it when I did the lighting.


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