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Feklore
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 8:17 pm     Reply with quote
I notice that a lot of work posted on here is done in Painter, with these techniques I cannot seem to figure out. What tools are some of you Painter experts using in order to achieve these awesome finished works? I don't mean to be vague, but is there some brush tool I am missing? Maybe I am not tweaking something right.

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GBud
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 8:30 pm     Reply with quote
Maybe you could talk about some specific techniques you're looking for, maybe clip some sections out of the art you're looking at to use as an example. I'm more a photoshop user, and I've only started with Painter recently...I'd like to hear about some specific applications myself....

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 10:19 pm     Reply with quote
Well what kind of brush, layer, etc. settings do you all use to achieve what you achieve? The hard part of doing digitalart, is learning how to emulate what needs to be emulated lol - meaning, how do I make that look like that? Yeah, get it.. erm..

Any of you painter expertise want to post some painter tutorials? I've only seen one of Veb's, and it was a lil vague on your knowledge of painter though useful nonetheless - ie. the part about setting 'features' to give a more liney brush or something.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 20, 2000 11:59 pm     Reply with quote
While I would have to agree with what Sa'ge said very much. I feel it is not quite true.
if you look at most books on a particular medium (if they are real ones not fuzzy how to paint in 14 hours or something) you will invariably hear something along the lines of "know your tools". With the advent of digital it is now a lot easier to get around all the nitty gritty problems with pigments reacting to each other and all that technique. However I can safely say that while I can do something half decent in watercolour, if you put me in front of a canvas with some oils I would be lost. Diferent technique altogether. you will no doubt have heard Fred or Spooge talking about Acrylic in that thread recently. It doesn't sound like there are no secrets to me. nothing will magicaly make you better, but if one sets out with bad tools or no idea how to get the most out of a medium (at least some tried a tested ways of working with it) it is an uphill battle. It's hard to learn colour with crappy pigment. There are definitly secrets that will improve your work tenfold. A better brush will do this. Once you have some skills with a good brush if you go back to a crap one you will be able to sense it's fallbacks etc, and get the most out of it, but to learn with one is madness (at the least it will make things much harder). Now is this sort of thing is pretty much redundant in Painter? I wouldn't have a frikken clue. never used it much. I would however suggest that starting from skratch and trying to reinvent the wheel is simply a waste of time. It is always good to isolate different parts of drawing/painting when learning. When doing a scientific experiment one has a control. the same thing is needed when learning. If I know exactly what veb used for a painting and I'm using the same, Yet mine looks like shit. we all know what the problem is. However if I was to just jump in and try to do something and it turned out crap then what is the problem? I can almost definitly say that particular methods and tools are not going to work. to try and learn everyhting at the same time is very hard. you need somehting to hold onto. A place to start before you try to experiment. otherwise it's just freefall.

I'm not saying that this is the case here or commenting on anyhting in particular.
It is always a common question, "what kinda pen do you use". I think that Jeff jones put it nicely "If you can draw, you can draw on a paper bag with a burnt stick"

Hehe I'll shut up now, just thought I'd chime in. I think that a better way to state this question would be somehting like; "does anyone have any good tips/working methodologies for working with the tools in painter". both are the same but it's in the phrasiology, and percived intent.


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