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Topic : "Which was better: Braveheart or The Patriot?" |
Striker member
Member # Joined: 20 Feb 2000 Posts: 152 Location: Oklahoma, USA
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2000 10:34 pm |
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Just saw The Patriot tonight (yeah, I know, I'm a little behind...) Anyway, loved the movie, and it reminded me a lot of Braveheart. So which did you guys like better?
Personally I lean towards Braveheart, even though The Patriot has stirred up a good deal of malice towards those red coated freaks.. I think Braveheart did a better job of snatching up your emotion and holding it throughout the movie. The Patriot got me at the beginning where the *ghost* is born, it had my blood boiling and I wanted to see some redcoats get whooped.. but nothing in the rest of the movie ever really eclipsed that awesome fight scene at the beginning.
Another movie along the same lines, and worth mentioning, is Last of the Mohicans. Even though it doesn't have the connection of Mel Gibson like Braveheart and The Patriot, it had amazing action, and the music fit it so perfectly. I probably liked Last of the Mohicans better than the Patriot as well. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2000 1:10 am |
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The Patriot was a very big disappointment to me, I found it to be a lame american style version of Braveheart (the story was so similiar). Braveheart and Last of the Mohicans were far far better (especially Braveheart, that movie is simply a golden masterpiece).
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GodChi member
Member # Joined: 19 May 2000 Posts: 77
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Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2000 4:20 pm |
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1. Braveheart
2. Last of the Mohicans
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27736. Patriot
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Ian member
Member # Joined: 19 Mar 2000 Posts: 1339 Location: Singapore
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 9:06 pm |
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I reserve the right to not care.
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Seph|roth member
Member # Joined: 07 Sep 2000 Posts: 261 Location: Montreal, Qc, Canada
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2000 10:31 pm |
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Gladiator |
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moocow junior member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2000 Posts: 45 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:23 pm |
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Braveheart. Period.
Patriot and Gladiator were decent, but not quite on the same level.
for war movies, i still prefer The Thin Red Line and Schindler's List (Private Ryan sucked, by the way). those two, along with Braveheart, are my Top 3 movies from the 90s. |
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Ragnarok member
Member # Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 1085 Location: Navarra, Spain
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:29 pm |
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In my opinion Braveheart wasn't that good,I prefered Gladiator. I haven't seen Patriot yet, but I'm not interested.
The thin red line was good, but the tape was in a bad state and I couldn't hear the last speech when Clooney talks. Damn =/
I think that Schindler's list was simple great. I loved the light tones in the b&w format. Wonderful. |
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:44 pm |
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Apocalypse Now
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Ragnarok member
Member # Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 1085 Location: Navarra, Spain
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 2:55 pm |
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I still have to watch it, but what I've heard is quite good (really good, in fact).
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Budoka member
Member # Joined: 29 Oct 2000 Posts: 157 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 4:01 pm |
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Braveheart was a good film, although some scenes were laughable, like the end scene where the scots run towards the camera - if you look closely you can see all of their rubber weaponary wobbling and one of the earlier battle scenes where a white ford van drives past the thundering californian/ausie /scot type. It was a good film though and only one battle in the otherwise dodgy Gladiator was comparable. NICE AND BLOODY - WHOOHA WHOOHAHAHA WHOOHA HA HA HA HA!!!! - excuse me.
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kos.mandis member
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 4:39 pm |
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Robocop 2! |
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faustgfx member
Member # Joined: 15 Mar 2000 Posts: 4833 Location: unfortunately, very near you.
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 5:00 pm |
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amen
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Shijima member
Member # Joined: 23 Nov 2000 Posts: 53 Location: oregon-usa
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 9:51 pm |
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patriot was like a little shorter version of braveheart in a different era with gibson revenging his kids instead of his women.......BRAVEHEART is alot better--also cooler fighting without guns.!!!!!! |
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Shijima member
Member # Joined: 23 Nov 2000 Posts: 53 Location: oregon-usa
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Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2000 9:52 pm |
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patriot was ok but it was a little shorter version of braveheart in a different era with gibdson revenging his kids instead of his woman BRAVEHEART was better......also fighting with guns is not as cool as swords |
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Member # Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 101 Location: Seattle, WA USofA
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 12:04 am |
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20 of The Best War movies, in no particular order.
1. Apocolypse Now!
2. Gettysburg
3. Das Boot, The unedited Directors cut
4. Stalingrad
5. Glory
6. Platoon
7. Full Metal Jacket- The 1st half of the movie
8. Tora! Tora! Tora!
9. Midway
10. Guns of Navarrone
11. Saving Private Ryan
12. Twelve o'clock High- Ohhh I loveeee this one
13. Glory
14. The Thin Red Line,
15. Catch-22. Who can leave this off a list?
16. Schindler's List
17. Dr. Strangelove
18. Lawrence of Arabia
19. The Deer Hunter
20. Wasn't Gone with the Wind set during the Civil War? I guess that would be # 20 if it was. And Star Wars. That was a war movie wasn't it. Or was it a western? I guess a case can be made either way. So we'll just call it a War Western.
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Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2000 12:30 am |
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the good, the bad and the ugly counts too in that case..
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Member # Joined: 29 Dec 1999 Posts: 2078 Location: Australia
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:10 pm |
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The patriot was crap....
such a hideous biased representation of the true facts about the english....
The American portrayal of the English was deeply warped in the movie...
and dont say otherwise |
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 10:30 pm |
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Road Warrior
Blade Runner |
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Cooter member
Member # Joined: 28 Nov 2000 Posts: 101 Location: Seattle, WA USofA
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Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2000 11:51 pm |
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Actually, Blade Runner is a sci-fi Film Noir. Has all of the elements of that genre and almost none of the "war" films. ie hard-boiled detective, dame, voice over narration.
Road Warrior is an example of what happens when the band GWAR decides to make a movie... LOL |
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Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2000 5:04 pm |
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Member # Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 251 Location: Somewhere, Sometime, Somehow
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 6:50 am |
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There were certanly some great visuals in the Patriot.
All the rest, though, is American propaganda. Quite sickening, I have to add. War movies are just so cliche ... |
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moocow junior member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2000 Posts: 45 Location: Boston
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Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 1:51 pm |
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the patriot was kinda messed up in the simple fact that the british never, ever attacked civilians like that. not an ounce of truth to the story. absolutely ridiculous. but i guess it had a more cinematic effect...sold more tickets, that's what matters to the studios.
most realistic war movie ever...the thin red line. beautiful film. saving private ryan? funny movie. like 7 guys trying to save one private? seriously, people. spielberg is not so much a filmmaker as he is a pure entertainer (other than schindler's list...another awesome movie). think about it. indiana jones...jurassic park...private ryan...it's all b.s., but people love the stuff.
too bad money is more important than art these days (with the notable exception of the thin red line and schindler's list, plus a few others...). |
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Member # Joined: 13 Sep 2000 Posts: 34
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2000 12:58 am |
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Well speaking of Patriot, I whipped up sometihng couple of days ago. Kinda ironic.
I know, I know it's in the wrong section of the board.
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Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2000 1:45 am |
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Well those group of people were trotting through France, and if I am correct was not really inhabited that much by the Nazis, except a few notable areas. I thought the Thin Red Line was okay, but that "Why are we here" poem s*** started to get to me. And Schindler's List was a very good and very realistic film, Spielberg is losing his touch, because GUESS WHAT!? Jurrasic Park 3! Yes that's right folks he's losing his touch now.
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Member # Joined: 15 Sep 2000 Posts: 568 Location: Cincinnati, Ohier
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2000 12:41 am |
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Schindler's List is not a war movie, it's a Holocaust movie. There are definitely seperate categories.
It is "Ben Barker's Number One Movie of All Time" though. It think it's a technical masterpiece, and the story is terrific.
Yeah, Citizen Kane had better cinematography and editing, but the story was lame. OoOooOh! Rosebud is the SLED!!!! AaaAhah!.....pshh lame.
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moocow, you live in Boston. What about the Boston Masacre? I've never seen the Patriot, so maybe they totally exaggerated the situation of something. The colonists weren't innocent, but the brits gunned down a crowd that had only sticks and rocks.
[This message has been edited by Ben Barker (edited December 21, 2000).] |
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Member # Joined: 13 Dec 2000 Posts: 646 Location: Arizona, US
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Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2000 11:05 pm |
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Braveheart was better. Why? Because I don't like thinking about how many people died for this country so it could turn into the heaping pile of crap it is now.
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