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Nex
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 4:25 am     Reply with quote
in the UK the cloning of embryonal cells to produce tissue has been permitted some days ago.

what do you think of that?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 4:27 am     Reply with quote
I think it's great. Now I'll move to UK and clone a small army of myself.

A thousand clones of me marching down the streets... how's that for a scary thought?

Seriously, though... I find it pretty frightening. I'm not religious (at all) but I've got this nasty, nagging little feeling that all this manipulating with nature will lash back at us. Ugh.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 4:30 am     Reply with quote
Let me quote our finnish friend Heikki on this : We�re all fucked anyway.

I dont care what kind of tricks they pull with nature. I wont be around aymore when the shit hits the fan anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 5:52 am     Reply with quote
Well, I think it's great they want to clone some cells to produce tissues. Nowadays getting an organ for a transplant is very hard and people have to be in a queue for a long time. Many die, many live in a painful way until the organ arrives. This would help many people and no, cloning those cells won't produce human beings but maybe I'm wrong.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 6:41 am     Reply with quote
Does it really matter ?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 8:44 am     Reply with quote
It's a good thing but I can see it being a bad thing too. It would be great for people who are waiting for an organ transplant. But it starts to open the door for some serious genetic engineering, and there is always someone who will want to make a super soldier and anhilate a country or two.

I'd much rather see a solution to population overcrowding more than anything.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 1:12 pm     Reply with quote
Yes! Geneng the human race to ugly midgets. That way the overpopulation problem gets solved.

Oh, cloning costs millions. And cloned embryos will be like identical twins. What's the fuzz all about anyway? People afraid of someone making a mega-array of identical babies? ..as far as I know, cloning doesn't include artificial insta-vat-growing people. Just duplicating cells with the DNA intact.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 2:23 pm     Reply with quote
if cloning human cells means that they can start producing organs for those who need transplants, go for it.

i think that before long there will be laws involving everyone's absolute right to their own dna, and while of course these laws will inevitably be violated at some point, it will be generally discouraged and prosecutable.

i don't think people need to worry. they can create an exact physical likeness of you. it's not *YOU* mentally or emotionally. it's expensive as hell...and why would anyone need an expensive physical replica?

they can't clone the mind. and if they could, well, that might be interesting.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 2:50 pm     Reply with quote
Creating an army of cloned men has a big problem: they all have the same weakneses so if one gets ill you have a very high percentage of having an ill army. Not very useful, don't you think?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 3:42 pm     Reply with quote
cloning is somewhat of a blessing, but I have to agree with Enayla - we're doing something that was never meant to happen and nature is going to lash back.

Everything's been fine until we started toying with it...then all sorts of bad things begin happening to it.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 20, 2000 7:03 pm     Reply with quote
I want to clone John Homes Penis and have it transplanted on to me.
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