[Akolyte]

Post links to your artwork that got you into art school/college. Pretty self-explanatory.

[Akolyte]

Someone is in art school...help me out here Lemme see your stuff

[faustgfx]

still haven't figured out that art schools and whatnot are a waste of time?

i could strive to get in to a art school.

first i'd have to go through the last year of junior high. then i'd have to go through senior high. then the art school. then i'd be 8 years older and without a job.

it's that scenario against me landing a graphics artist position half accidentally at 17.



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[Spitfire]

Same here. I could roll in at 17, work 5 years to become an european master of arts and a poor one at that....or. I could go to work at 17 and be art director by experience by the time im 20. Needless to say i picked #2 2 years ago.

[Akolyte]

But, sadly enough, you will never be introduced to traditional media studies that will help your future in art. or, you may learn them, and you will have no paper saying you did. And that my friends gets you half as far, I want the education. You can't teach yourself everything. You can, but I don't want tunnel-vision.

[faustgfx]

what if one hates art and graphics work in general and doesn't care a jack fuck about knowledge and whatnot?

i still think concrete work examples work better than "faustgfx knows that Bob the Whoever Artist lived in 1291 and did This and That painting" ....



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[Akolyte]

I'm not talking about art history. I'm talking about foundation classes, color theory courses, exposure to professors who have been there and know, collaborations with other art students, and in the end, that piece of paper that will let me into a master's program in computer animation that neiter of you will be able to land without a bachelor's degree of some sort. And without that, you seem like just what you set yourself out to become; A graphic artist, with no intellectual depth, no education background, and a second-rate job placement rate that typifies the word "artist." I am going to college. Put it this way, I can't get into Industrial Light & Magic, Pixar, or a reknowned studio with fat paychecks without that slip of paper. No offense, but your route seems to be too easy.

[Spitfire]

Mwah. It got me into the new media department of the Netherlands� biggest newspaper.

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[Nex]

I agree that artschool is pretty useless.

you don't get a job as artist for what you know about art but for what i looks like.

[MrHiemey]

I'm in my sophomore year at the University of Central Florida right now, and my art is twice as good as it was when i left high school, i'm currently one of the top students in my class, and i seriously don't think that i could have learned this much on my own. I am, however, looking in to art schools also mostly because the digital media section of UCF is in its first year and i don't think that i'll learn as much as i want to by staying.

Anyhow, i think that having a large diversity of people to critique your art, and also good professors is worth going to college for. And while art history is boring, there were a lot of good ideas developed and expanded upon throughout the years. I think that it's very important to know about them. well, that's what i think anyhow.

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[[Shizo]]

Hmmm.. i don't know anymore. Ok i think i'll go to college for a year, and see how it goes from there. Also i wanna live on campus, adds some experience on my own don't you think?

[Akolyte]

Shizo, are you in the US? If so, what college are you lookin' at?

[MrHiemey]

[Shizo] - I tried on campus for a year, and it is nice b/c you get to be close to your classes and don't have to worry much about transportation, but I HATE the roomate thing... my roomate never left so i couldn't get much personal time, plus it's hard to do art in a little dorm room. It depends on the facilities i suppose. I'm in an apt. now, annd i love it, got a bunch of room, and i don't have to share my bathroom with 4 other guys. yuck.

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[[Shizo]]

Akolyte & all: im in USA, New Jersey
Been looking at Stockton, Rowan, Maryland College of Arts (too hard to get into+$$).
Well that's what i LOOKED at, because at least those ones have some courses that have to do with digi art (in some way heh).

I don't know anymore :p
(and i don't care about bathroom because i dont ever take showers... ever hehhahaha!!!!!)

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[faustgfx]

it's sad.

it is a hard fact that today all it takes to get a job in a "art" related thing that deals with computers is mediocre experience and knowledge in 3d studio max, photoshop and illustrator/freehand.

look at me. i barely made it out of 9th grade and here i am. if a person like me can get a job like this, it's gotta be good and right and something divine to it.


but whatever, i'm only trying to get some sense to your heads. it's completely up to you if you wish to waste X years of your life in some art school where you become an artist, and on top of that, pay your ass off for it.



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[Freddio]

quote:

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Originally posted by faustgfx:
what if one hates art and graphics work in general and doesn't care a jack fuck about knowledge and whatnot?

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Then dont go to art school. and if that the case why would you go into an artistic job?

[[Shizo]]

Hmm, well it's true - art school is good for someone who wants to do ART. But for digital art... Well, not many schools are up to the time. None that i know actially teach you how to paint Craig-style with a PC! But i hate traditional so.. I even hate PENCIL - always use a pen heh. But anyway, it's a good GOOD topic! Not many of which i see lately. Keep posting your opinions peoples. Especially inmportant for me cause i have to decide whether to go, or NOT to go to college next year. Although i wouldn't if i could.

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[Akolyte]

My position is this:

If you don't go to college you're pretty much writing your own book. However, that book is gonna be only 20 pages long. I think that if you go to art school, open up to the various techniques they present, converse with experts in all forms of art, and become fully versed in the hardcore mediums, then you will stand higher than those that are simply "digital artists." I personally want to be a digital artist, 2d and 3d at that, but I do realize that there is more to be learned than just pushing my mouse or a WACOM across Photoshop 6 or 3DSMax. There's a lot of stuff to do and learn, and I feel limiting yourself to limited education, limits your parameters and goals, and in the long run, limits your ability to do what you want.

[This message has been edited by Akolyte (edited December 18, 2000).]

[Akolyte]

BTW, I have nothing against faustgfx or Spitfire because we disagree. Please don't turn this topic into the flame war SplitSoul brought about yesterday. Just a civilized, argumentative topic.