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JaffaCAke
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 8:43 am     Reply with quote
this is litruly the coloured in version of one of my sketches I posted here recently. I've changed the pic very much and he's meant to be dead, sitting down against a wall. I want his eyes to look like they've been burnt or poked out but i'm not sure how to do things like blood. The left (his right) side of him isn't finished yet. and bits round the neck are a bit wonky. but still I'd like your ideas on how to improve it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 8:45 am     Reply with quote
oops. forgot to add what I'm talking about

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 2:20 pm     Reply with quote
first off its much to blurry... there are no hard edges and it really turns me off looking at a picture and not being able to place my eye on anything...its so blurry my eye just wanders around with no direction. What i would do to improve it is clean up the edges etc and not use solid BLACK as a color for shading but instead the darker values such as the darker greens and blues...

also what is this supposed to be? i mean you said it was some guy with his eyes burned out but where is this taking place? theres no setting.... it makes the painting very boring.. for one, most of the painting is taken up by his shirt...which is not interesting at all there are no dramatic folds or dynamic lighting or shadows cast that would make his shirt interesting. the painting also looks very flat, try throwing in a background, and adding some more color too your character as well as define the edges and i think it will improve hte pic 100%!! i love the textures tho, they are really nice gives a nice feel to the pic, and hte concept is good (could be a little more indepth) but still good.

hope this helps

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Seph|roth
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
Yeah, i also think the image is way too blurry. It needs more sharpness and details.
What are those black dots all over his suit ?
You should defenatly take them out of there, it messes up the image even more.
Try to get some textures on the helmet also, it looks too simple, his body suit also.
I hope this helps you a bit.

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micke
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 4:29 pm     Reply with quote
Hi Jaffa, i tried out a couple of things on your picture, hope you don't mind.
Since your picture were pretty blurry the eyes that were suppose to burned out could be mistaken for shadows, so i added some burned blood and sharpened some areas.
I also mainly desaturated the picture a bit,
because using the dodge, or burntool makes the colours very intense and too sharp.
Some details were were sharpened and highlighted. Hope this can help you a bit



Micke


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SushiMaster
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 4:39 pm     Reply with quote
Woah micke! You da spooge :-)

Daniel
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JaffaCAke
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2000 10:11 pm     Reply with quote
micke you are exelent I see what you mean. My whole picture was just a flat colour changed by the darken and lighten tools which is what I've been doing for a month or two now. Your's looks like it was painted directly... I think I should have ago at that. thanks to everyones comments I think I will start from the begining if I do anything else to it
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2000 8:02 am     Reply with quote
He he. It was just a wild guess with the burn-tool..
Jaffa:Post the finished picture, when you're ready Good luck!

-micke

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2000 12:10 pm     Reply with quote
geeeez , here is a huge piece of know-how !!!

Micke,i have some quesitons if you don't mind.
1. you use PS or painter ?
2. how many layers did you used for this ?
3. is that brush , is airbrush...?

i know cuz is maybe to much what i ask from you , but is very important for me and all the guyz here , i mean beginers.

pleeez !...=)

~bizarde.
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Anthony
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2000 2:08 pm     Reply with quote
He used Photoshop, the paintbrush. At one point he had the Wacom set to size. He probably only used on paint layer, although that part doesn't really matter as much-using multiple layers on something like this is just to keep it clean.

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Originally posted by Bizarde:
geeeez , here is a huge piece of know-how !!!

Micke,i have some quesitons if you don't mind.
1. you use PS or painter ?
2. how many layers did you used for this ?
3. is that brush , is airbrush...?

i know cuz is maybe to much what i ask from you , but is very important for me and all the guyz here , i mean beginers.

pleeez !...=)

~bizarde.





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Bizarde
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2000 2:17 pm     Reply with quote
thank you Anthony,right now the layers just flying go and back in my brain...such a mass !

~bizarde.
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SushiMaster
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2000 5:42 pm     Reply with quote
Craig has a very neat tutorial on the basics of this shading technique (must be the basics, cause I managed to follow and apply it :-P) on http://www.3dpalette.org

Look at the bottom of the page.

Daniel
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