[CapnPyro]

This is a page I just finished, the first couple of pages of the prologue to the book the Wheel of Time. This is the second comic book coloring ive tried, cuts are fun



My original pencils: http://home1.gte.net/capnpyro/lews_1.jpg

Any comments are welcome

-CapnPyro-

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[kenfusion]

only thing I can comment on is the reflection in the mirror....'taint right :/

Cool otherwise!

-ken

[This message has been edited by kenfusion (edited July 08, 2000).]

[Binke]

Hm, the pencils are good, I would suggest work a little bit more on the coloring. From my experience, comic colored pics are a bit more saturated, if you look at comics like Darkness, Witchblade etc. But I dunno if that is what you want it look like.
Another good thing is to clean up the pictures, by inking them. Also this tutorial is great http://www.figma.com/drawing/howto/eloven/el_color_01.htm
good explanation on how to comic color,if ya want to look at it.


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[hamster]

i dont like the drawings...

[Rinaldo]

First off I'd like to say that there is nothing wrong with the style of colouring you are using. But for the prologue to Eye of the World. No No No No No No.......
I'm a huge Robert Jordan fan, if I had the time I'd Illustrate the whole Series, So I feel I at least have some authority.
Fer crying out loud this is the scene Concerning Lewis Therin's decent into madness. the Writing is very disjointed, the feel is one of madness, not children's book colouring. If I was to use coloured line art as a medium (and I would not), I'd go for a much more sombre colour scheme, dark, moody, without light, did I mention dark?
the colouring is the topic so I won't comment on the drawing. suffice to say something a little bit more painterly would suit the subject matter better. A mix of David Mack (Kabuki) and Ashley Wood (the guy who does all those spawn covers) is probably what I'm thinkin.
I know this is a bit heavy handed so I'm sory if this is too harsh.

hey, feel free to tell me where to go if ya want:)

[CapnPyro]

haha thanks ken, i fixed the mirror

thanks for the link binke, i already checked that out, sort of used a bit of it while coloring

hamster, i dont like you...

rinaldo, i totally agree, the whole time i was painting it i was thinking this needs to be darker, moodier, i need more scorch marks, and blood, i did this for a comic book convention that im going to in a 2 weeks, so i just wanted to get it done and work on some pencils, i will probably revisit this page (as well as color my other WoT pages) in a moodier manner, maybe no cuts, just the paintbrush tool, sort of water color look

thanks for the comments

-CapnPyro-



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[proximo]

if you are really serious about comic stuff and just to have a good understanding behind the art of comic, there is a book called understanding comics, the invisible art, we had to read it in one of my story telling classes and well it opens your eyes to a ton of shit you never even thought about , its a really good book ,and if you guys are like me then you dont really like a book with long explanation with no exampls, well this book is layed out like a comic ! hehe .. lots of pages just like it anyhow you should take a look at it if you have not already.. the author is scott mccloud

[psi burn]

capn, if you want to see some high class comic colouring, check out the stuff by Digital Crayon. they make beautiful artwork turn into dazzling images. they've done various comics for marvel, etc.

[hennifer]

i've got 'understanding comics' and you're right, its a good introduction to a lot of the issues involved in graphic storytelling (translates well to storyboarding and even animation) and its a VERY entertaining read.

until you check out this kinda book, you can't imagine all the different comics styles, as well as all the different things to take into account..

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[CapnPyro]

thanks for the refernce guys, i just ordered understanding comics from amazon, hopefully itll help my story telling out a bit

-CapnPyro-

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[DeathbyDuplicity]

Pretty good job CapnPyro! Okay here goes....There's a little too much shine on the castle wall, the highlight is too strong! It is supposed to look worn and old since it's on the outside. This is a very confusing concept, I can't really read it form panel to panel. The thing is to try and tell your story without words, before words get lettered into your story. But I'm not quite understanding it. Sure I see a few dead bodies and I know how the girl is linked, but the other stuff has no direct transition into the last panel.

The girl is coloured damn good! But for her skin to have such strong highlights her hair would have some also and they don't quite match those of the guy in the back. Also that candle wouldn't have such a strong outer glow in a room that well lit. Definately do something about that guy's reflection. Hell maybe I don't do everything as well as I point them out, but that's what crits are about; learning from eachother!

Oh and if you want to learn stroy telling don't rely on those books! Sure that's a good book, but it's not going to teach you anything! It's only going to point you in the direction to attain the knowledge! So if time is important it's literally not the greatest investment! Try looking and learning from old b&w films! Citizen Cane, Casablanca, Jason and the Argonauts stuff like that! The b&w effect will help you learn to use shadows! And since those guys were limited to such a slim arsenal effects form lack of colour, you could also pic up how to transit form scene to see! Also study movies and novels you like! Study it! Figure out why you like it, why is it original, is it because of a new camera angle or transit? Figure out what scene are used as important factors, and how they link each! Turn down the sound and look at how even though the sound is down they still tell the story with hand gestures and facial expression! Well I'll stop now because I'm at the border, and can't go on to tell you my presonal approaches, but I hope this helps!

This is just my opinion and the way I look at stuff, this is not the only way to do this! This is just what I've learn from my experience as a writer/penciler, but now it's my turn to learn from these digital fellas and ladies since that's my career move!

[hennifer]

learning from books is a waste of time?!

..i agree looking at movies is fine if you're interested in film-making, and it helps out with storyboarding (and comic layout) to a certain degree.. but if you don't already know the techniques that film-makers use, you're going to be floundering around watching these films & not knowing what to look for!

...the solution? i'm sure there are a lot of good books out there about film-making techniques. but if you're more interested in comics than film, i wouldn't get mixed up with films & film books. there are enough resources out there specifically about comics.

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