[ex]

I'm using Photoshop 5.5, and i just added some fonts to my font list. How come they add to all the lists in other programs like word and works but they dont show up on the font list in photoshop.. can someone help me with this? and yeah.. i closed photoshop and opended it back up again already.. still didnt work

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[samdragon]

R U using mac or windows?
What type of fonts, true type (PS), display etc.
You say you added them to your font list, do you mean your font folder?




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[ex]

Yeah.. windows, true type fonts, ans yes.. i added them to my font folder in the control panel.

[samdragon]

I know that photoshop and PIII are not very freindly, but I havn't heard about fonts doing that before.
Did you try deleting your photoshop prefs?
It's in your photoshop directory,then look in photoshop 5.5 settings.
You'll lose all your current settings, but it may help. Don't worry, photoshop will make a new one when you start it up again.
also, make sure you have a file called "typelibrary.tlb" it should be in your main root ps directory. if not, re-install photoshop and make sure you select everything to install.
I would suggest re-installing it anyway, just make sure you use the uninstall option before installing it.
If this doesn't help, try looking on the adobe help boards at the adobe site.


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[Zor]

ther is a way around this.. it soudns stoopid but it works (and is a windows bug)

Close Down PS if you havent already.. then all u need do is browse to your c:\windows\fonts folder.. one u dotn that go back into PS and boom, they wil be there..

Strange but it works

[ex]

my software is pirated.. so that is probley why.

[goldfinger007]

You shouldn't admit to that...

[ex]

why? do you think someone will turn me in? i cant find it for cheap. software is too damn expencive.

[A.Buttle]

Too expensive huh? Get a god damned job. Software is expensive because so many people pirate it.

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[lotor]

vicious circle i guess

[Morganic]

It even works with the pirated version..uh.
I think..

Just reboot and stuff..

[Mozeman]

I really don't want to be drawn into a discussion on piracy, but software is not expensive because people pirate it.

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[Tinusch]

Just because you can't afford it doesn't mean you can pirate it... I can't afford to buy a new computer, why don't I just go and steal one?

[dines]

Mozeman,

i think you're right, softwares are not expensive because people pirate it,
software companies has always used this excuse to explain their price (especially in the game industry)

why paintshoppro'price is 100$ and 3dmax is about 5000$ (not sure of the prices) ?
because 3dsmax is done by a big team, which want a salary each month, and psp was developped by 3-4 guys in their spare time !

heh it's not so easy !

another thing about piracy, it's not like stealing things, Tinush i don't agree with you on this point....

do you think that all great animators, modellers working on softwares had their license when they started ? i don't think so.

If people only started working on a software at the time they get their licence, i can say (at least) 50% of the artists wouldn't be able to work nowadays...

Another idea i want to speak about is the reason why companies software tolerate piracy (it's not the case everywhere)

If a company try to reduce the piracy of his products it can be a bad thing, why ?

hum people who work with pirated softwares are most of the time beginners, who want to do something and try the software, etc...

If a company stop this user, then he will try another software ! and at the time he will work as professional, what soft will he choose ? of course the one he always work on...so at this point the software company fighting against piracy has lost a potential customer...

dines.

[Nex]

I'm totally 100% with what Tinusch said.

Warez/Pirated Software is STOLEN software. Just because you don't have the package doesn't mean you didn't steal it.

That the prices are higher because of software piracy is however not true.

Software piracy is illegal.. and if you do it then at least your logic mind should tell you NOT to post it on a public forum.

but thats none of my business.. just think about it.

[ex]

Some of you were suggestiong me to get a job.. its kind of hard when new york state laws prohibit people under i think it is 15 years of age to work and have a job. And when i am only 13 years old.. i have a couple years to go now don't I.
But if i was older and i had a paying job.. i would be absolutly more then happy to spend that amount of money on software. And no.. my parents wont pay for it either. They think its a waste and i spend too much time on the computer as it is.
-So thats why i dont just get a job and buy it and stop complaining about the price- A.Buttle

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[29A]

I'd say piracy �s NOT stealing. It's still illeagal but it's not stealing.
You have to agree, the software prices are way to high.

I'd acctually say that piracy is good for the company. I mean, if you learn say PS5.5 at home when you're in school. Won't you use the program when you start working? And companies are most likly to buy a license for you if you're in a graphic profession.

(companies using pirated software is dead wrong, they can't even say that they couldn't afford it. Making money using something others pay for is dead wrong.)

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[Nex]

most programs offer Trial versions or demos to test and try out.

So if you would call ADOBE today and tell them if its ok by them that you have a pirated version.. do you think they'd say "Hey great, thanks for considering our product worth your time."?

Can't imagine that.

P.S. nothing against you personal ex.

[This message has been edited by Nex (edited May 13, 2000).]

[zayats]

Now, that's what I call a "student discount!", ex!

I remember when I first saw "softimage" at a trade show. It was $40,000! The reason they charge that much is because they can.
When such software was first developed, it was only used by larger industrial corporations, big budget film production houses, and the military.
In other words, places with over-inflated project budgets. (We've all heard about $300 government hammers, right?)
The prices were so high because such companies were willing to pay them.

Ya gotta love products like Hash's "Animation Master". They figure if they only charge $200, people will be less likely to pirate it, because more people can afford it.

[ex]

I'm not taking any of this personally. And i agree with mostly all of you. So, don't worry Nex.. i think it was. And very true zayats.
And yeah, adobe does offer trial offers. And i had one and used it for like 2 years. And crakced the time limit. But my friend offered my 5.5 pirated. And he bought it.. so its kinda like.. from a friend to a friend deal. Not like i got it from a warez site or anything. He just zipped it and sent the zip to me. So i guees i cuncider that pirated, but its not as bad as cracking it or getting it from a warez site. Agree?

[Morganic]

Same thing Ex, Same thing..

[ex]

but its not as bad

[Drorak]

If you profit from pirated software in any way (whether it be selling a pirated copy to a friend, or using the software as a business tool to make profits)... then it is stealing.

But if you have no intention in buying the software in the first place and you are not profiting from it, then I can't see how you can call it stealing, because the software no longer has a monetary value attached to it. Software companies know that piracy in this stage(non-profit), is actually quite beneficial for the survival of their products. It's free advertising in a way.

For instance, I'm sure that Microsoft is quite content knowing that the majority of university students are using a pirated copy of MS Word. They know that these same students will learn to use and appreciate their product. When these students later appear on the work force, there is a good chance that they will continue to use th e same products that they have learned to use.

It's rather unfortunate, but I think that piracy may actually have hurt the Word Perfect product... not because the product is being pirated, but because it's competitor, MS Word is being pirated even more.

If a business had to decide between these 2 products, without being biased by the fact that the majority of their employees already know how to use MS Word. Then I'm sure that many of these businesses would probably reconsider whether they really needed to pay more money for a word processor that has a talking paper clip as a help screen.

Photoshop is the same, and Adobe knows it. They know that the average student can not afford to buy it. But for the product to continue to be number one as it has, then the product has to remain popular. And what better way then to actually have people learn how to use their product before even reaching the work force.

Yikes, did I write all that. Well I know that I probably won't change anybody's mind with what I wrote... most likely because my post was so long that you all skipped it. But I do feel that even though there are a few people who do profit from stolen software, the majority do not. And No I don't believe that a 'pirated copy' is always synonymous with a 'stolen copy'.

[Morganic]

ex: just as bad. It doesn't matter where you
get it. It's about having it without buying it.