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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:05 am     Reply with quote
I am having a very hard time bluring my brush strokes so the shadeing looks even. I can't get the burn tool to do it evenly either. What am I doing wrong?

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:19 am     Reply with quote
you could start with drawing the shadings smooth in the first place.

try smooth? try smudge? try the Smart Blur effect then the smudge tool?



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:27 am     Reply with quote
Faustgfx, I am very new to this. So you use the shading of the BW drawing in the color painting? Sorry for being so ignorent

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:30 am     Reply with quote
now you lost me.

repeat that in english..


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:31 am     Reply with quote
This is my little trade-secret so im afraid ill have to drop by your house with the black Sedan & 2 goons after i tell you, but here goes :

Paint with brush-opacity set to 50% and use the same brush color to darken it up (a 2nd stroke over the 1st stroke will make the combined strokes darker). Then use the color-picker to get the color you just painted, and paint that one over the border between light and dark. Because you pick a color painted at 50%, and paint that again at 50% it will be a bit lighter, but not darker than 2 50% strokes on top of eachother. You can make very subtle shading that way. Dont understand it? neither do i. It's hard to put to words.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:31 am     Reply with quote
now you lost me.
rephrase your question, thankyou.

well hang. i'm planning a "tutorial" (or another pointers -thing, anyway) on my ps5 drawing style. i think someone'll find it interesting..

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:36 am     Reply with quote
Faust: Ok, here it goes, this is the best way I can think to explain it. You put your basic colors down, then turn the opacity down on your color layer, you select the *effect all layers* option then blend your B/W scetch into the color paint.....I hope that made a little more sence.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 6:40 am     Reply with quote
Spitfire: Whoa...You lost me somewhere around the goons part. I'll keep reading it over and over and maybe it will start to make sence. Thankyou for the tip though...I kinda got the jist of what you were trying to say.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 7:10 am     Reply with quote
Okay, what im talking about is the following :

You have color Brown A selected for the paintbrush. Usually color A=100%. Now you put the brush itself on 50% and paint a ball, without releasing the mousebutton. The ball is 50% brown (dark). Now you use the exact same brush, but you only go over half of the ball. That part turns darker 'cause you add more 'brown' to the 50% brown (darker). Say it's now 75% brown (why 50% over 50% isnt 100% in PS i dont understand, but it doesnt matter). Now release the mousebutton, and paint over the ball again, only just over half of the darker part. More 'brown' is added to the ball and the new part is 100% brown (darkest). Get it? simple shading without switching tools or colors.

Now those 3 colors aren't too well-blended and look too artificial. Here's how to fix it :

You pick a brush, half the size of the brush you used first. Keep the opactiy on 50% but now you get the eyedropper (color picker) and select the darkest color on the ball for your brush. Now paint over the border between darkest and darker and you'll see the color you selected is halfway between darker and darkest. Why? 'cause it's 50% of a color painted in 50%. Nifty eh?

Now you use the dropper to pick the darker color (the 2nd or "75%" one) and paint over the border between dark and darker. Same effect.

As you can imagine, you can continue doing this by picking your "picked" transition colors and taking a smaller brush and painting over the border of the new transitions. It takes a steady hand and lots of patience, but the technique is simple and the effect great.

Hope its clear now.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 7:26 am     Reply with quote
wow...this is really hard. I shall keep at it though! But right now i am going to go draw in my trusty old sketch pad. Thanks again you guys for the tips.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 7:30 am     Reply with quote
It's so fucking easy you probably smack yourself the moment you find out Problem is its kinda hard to explain....

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 8:17 am     Reply with quote
Spitfire, brush opacity just means how much the brushstroke will cover whatever is underneath. So if you put two 50% strokes on top of each other, you get 75% because 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.75... I know it's painfully obvious, but you said you didn't understand...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 9:20 am     Reply with quote
/me bangs his head on the table a dozen times

/me runs around the house cursing and screaming

/me tries to drown himself in the toilet

/me never paid any fucking attention in school


Thanks dude

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 3:18 pm     Reply with quote
Sfr, I don't know what school of math you apply to, but in my world 0.5 x 0.5 = 0.25

And 0.5 x 1.5 = 0.75

The reason it is 75% is because the second time you are only adding 50% of the ORIGINAL 50%. Alright, say you have an image filled with white. You take your brush with the color set to red, but leave the opacity at 50%. You achieve a true 50% blend between red and white, or pink. Now on top of that you add a second coat of red at 50% opacity, which is only going to be 50% of the original 50%, or 25%. 50% + 25% = 75%. That's why it is 75% red, not 100% red on the second application.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2000 3:32 pm     Reply with quote
good work joe. painfully obvious, eh?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2000 12:18 am     Reply with quote
Words cannot describe how utterly stupid i feel.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2000 5:26 am     Reply with quote
ahem, how embarrassing, thanks Joe so I meant to write 0.5 + (0.5 x 0.5) = 0.75 ...

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