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Chapel
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 10:40 am     Reply with quote
Just out of curiosity.. when you guys paint do you go from dark to light or light to dark? On canvas or paper I usually go light to dark, but I've noticed in some pics posted that it looks like light colors are done last to get that nice glow look.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 10:44 am     Reply with quote
I approach it from middle values, using the colour/value of the canvas to go either to dark or light. This way one has more control over the balance of the image.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 10:48 am     Reply with quote
I often pick two clours, a semi-light and a semi-dark one and paint with both from the beginning, sculpting the shapes of what I'm painting, and then start adding detail. So I do both.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 10:50 am     Reply with quote
I usually work from the middle values too...
But sometimes I like to work from a black silhouette and just fill in the light.
Look at the highrez preview I posted a few days ago...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 11:54 am     Reply with quote
Center COlor 1st (cartoon look , flat-colors)
go in with Lights and Dark (light THEN dark)

Add in more highlights etc..

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Chapel
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 11:57 am     Reply with quote
Are you guys using the paintbrush tool with a low opacity to highlight and darken or are you using the airbrush tool?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 2:39 pm     Reply with quote
I used to be a dark-and-build-up guy. (still do from time to time)
but then I saw the light!
Or midtones, as it were. (ie. what Danny said)
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2000 10:02 pm     Reply with quote
a cornflakebox-goth's gotta start from dark and avoid light, after all... ;p

not.



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 12:37 am     Reply with quote
i almost always start from 60-70% grey background, and start forming stuff out of it.. first make faint lighter areas, then highlights, then the darker-than-original-base-60-70%-grey areas.

but since i don't use the pen or the airbrush tools at all, it's a different thing. burn/dodge tool is the shit. i've totally in love with it. it suits my drawing style almost perfectly.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 12:44 am     Reply with quote
I just start with a mediocre color and add darker tones to the shadow areas and lighter tones to the lighter areas. I have this really bad habit of working with a 8-15% brush, so it usually takes a while
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 2:24 am     Reply with quote

lately i've been starting a page with about 25% darkness (0 being black and 100 being white) and then adding lights in mainly and then some darks.

it actually depends on the piece though now that i think about it...it varies. But i prefer adding light to dark overall

-dhab

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 4:16 am     Reply with quote
Depends on what I'm drawing, and what style I'm using.

I sometimes start with a black background, add white and smudge, then add color over it. Other times I'll sketch something out quickly and shape things out, and add layers of color over it to get shading. Or, I just throw color down till I get something.



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Chapel
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 6:56 am     Reply with quote
Cool.. I've been strugglin with my painting, but I've been doing the light to dark method. I think I'll try using midtones first. I'll post the pic when I'm done.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 7:08 am     Reply with quote
You know, I just realized I'd never really even thought about it before I read this thread...

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2000 7:17 am     Reply with quote
I use to color with water markers, so I always went from light to dark. But I've had trouble with that when painting with photoshop. Could just be me and my unfamiliarity with the brushes. Here is a pic I did with marker and yes I recreated a Rob Liefield pic.



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