[Loki]

I was probably the last one to find out, but is has been a major pain for quite a while and I'm happy to have discovered the source of that annoyance:

When you have more than one layer in an image in Photoshop 5.0 or 5.5 and you continue to paint, you get this annoying little "timeout" watch after every(!) brushstroke. It's obvious to mention that this is really distracting and keeps one from getting into the work. I tried everything - different tablet driver, switching this or that off, checking the scratch-disks ... no result. Until I closed the channels-window. turns out, it takes PS too long to update the little previews in it. After closing it, every thing is fine ... no more f*cking little watch to watch while you're painting ...

Since most of you are working on a PC anyway, my discovery doesn't really matter - but I just wanted to tell the world

[spooge demon]

Hey Loki,

Good tip! I still use 4.0.1 I find the later ones useful for web and type, but bloated and slow for our work. I like the transparency set to black so as not blast your eyes with every redraw, but this also sets the BG of the layers palette, making it impossible to see what is on the layer. 4.0 is always white.

I have heard the color balance tool is much improved in 5.0 plus.

I was wondering what your experience is with the later versions and why you use them.

sd

[Loki]

Well, I just switched over three days ago, because I thought it would help with the following problem:

Ever since I installed System 9 on my machine, PS leaves dead space on my scratch drive. So, after a couple of crashes, the disk is getting fuller and fuller without actually showing any files on it. With Norton speeddisk though, it shows the dead areas - when you check them, they're assigned as PS-temp file.
Not too much of a problem, since I got a dedicated striped 2GB partition as main swap. So I just re-initialize every once in a while - FWB HarddiskToolkit is the way to go.
But some of that dead matter also made it onto my bootdisk - and that one is hard to initialize, if you know what I mean.

So, I thought changing to 5.0 helps ... but doesn't.

The only thing I like about 5.0 is having the history set to two steps, because sometimes some a 'paintspatter' drops from my pen after doing a big stroke, and I can't undo the big stroke - it's a little safety-measure.

But ... to end this big monologue, I think I'll revert back to 4.01, because of speed-issues and the truly retarded 'improvement' of the cloning-tool ... argh ... why oh why did they do this ???
But I agree, the typetool is really nice. The webstuff on the other hand should be made into a seperate application - my fear is, that they, in order to cash in on the webmoney, will make PS even more bloated, making it a pain to use for people like us and the pre-press business ... 'nuff!

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[Muzman]

you mac geeks you

It could work on PC I suppose. I know i get a timeout if I'm using a complicated tool with a large brush size or whatever (say a 3000xlots pic at 25% has a 400 pixel airbrush dragged across it). It's an extreme example and it's obviously a resources problem, I might try it anyway.

[Danny]

I have absolutely NO clue what you guys are talking about.. Time Outs?!?! Must be a Mac thing...
One other thing you might find VERY usefull is the new aproach to Edit Transform selections. Scale, rotate, perspective, distort etc. can now all be done in one go without having PhotoShop recalculating (and theferore bicubic blurring/interpolating) after each specific function. Certainly leads to better results.
Hmm.. come to think of it.. this might already be a 4.0 feature.. Dunno.. it's been ages since I was running 4.0. I'm rambling..
Anyway.. another handy feature are the Adjustment Layers... not a very painterly enhancement tho..
If you're a hotkey user (like myself) be prepared to yet again having to adjust to new key assignments.. I whish they would make up their minds at Adobe..

Danny

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[dennison]

hmm, great you found out about it, loki.. i never really realized it until now cos i always "hide" everything when "painting" so the only thing i see is the workspace, i do this by working in fullscreen (by hitting "f") and hiding the toolbars and windows (by hitting "tab") in windows, of course.. dunno how it works in macs but i guess it's just the same

[spooge demon]

Hey Loki, I can help you out with the scratch problem. In general I think you can use a find utility to find the orphan file and then delete it from within the find prog.

I use Ultrafind, it does the job really nicely. If you cant find it, I send it to you gotta fly

[Loki]

Spooge - you rock! I nuked 'em all! Great - now I'll revert back to 4.01 ...

[Adamantine]

hmm...never thought of that, but i noticed that if i have say 1024x768 and 10-20 layers they navigationwindow takes like lots of time to update, and it slows down everything else, so try shutting down that too to get faster performance

[Loki]

No can do - the nav-window is my best friend but that doesn't take a lot to update - and I'm working in 1600x1200 in both screens. They must have some dirty code updating those channel-windows. Everything else seems too be efficient enough ...