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analogheart junior member
Member # Joined: 27 Mar 2008 Posts: 18
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:24 am |
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Hi, I'm basicaly teaching myself to draw. I'm using a range of stuff - drawing from life mainly and also following Edwards, Loomis, Vilppu, Gnomon etc.
I know some people who have been in college to study fine art and paint but have never learned to draw. Now, tbh this particular guy I don't think his style is that good and I'm wondering if it is because he hasn't learned to draw. I don't know it seems to me that the people who have bothered to learn to draw have a better style when they go to other media like paints or even 3D etc. There seems to be this school of thought that says learning 'proper' shading, proportions, gesture etc is stuff of the Renaissance....you don't need to learn that anymore to find your own style.
For me when this happens it always seems to become 90% concept and 10% skill and I'm sure it should be 50/50. I'm wondering whether you can be good at other arts if you can't draw because I'm starting to realise that drawing is seeing and complete mental discipline. I don't think that I would have been able to draw 10 years ago or actually if I had done I would have probably been a different person today. I think it's odd that in school they always see art/drawing as a non-academic subject which is weird cos I've already studied literature and actually drawing is he most academic thing I've ever done in my life and just seems very philosophical if that makes sense.
I'd be really very interested in your views'pon this ere subject  |
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Nag member
Member # Joined: 25 Apr 2004 Posts: 287 Location: Iceland
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 6:03 pm |
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If you want to get any good, then drawing is the most important knowledge you'll get.
Vilppu is great, I'm always learning a lot from him and he's a funny guy. |
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Returner member
Member # Joined: 01 Oct 2000 Posts: 350 Location: Sweden, Stockholm
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Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:20 am |
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Draw and draw. A thing concerning life drawing that came as a bit of a surprise to me was how much you "have to let yourselve go" dare to be completely in the moment.
Only then will you do your maximum. It's the same as the "flow" in any mental task on a high level. You need to dare take that plunge and risk the drawing to be shit, you won't succeed if you guard it from failure.
The way to do this is to look mostly at what you are drawing and only look on the paper when you actually want to put something on it. No second guessing, no analyzing. Looking and reacting.
Some lucky bastards never have this problem to begin with, them I envy.
Anyway a general tip is to put away all your prestige and dare to fail, then you also have alot more fun along the way. |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 12:15 am |
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Returner wrote: |
Anyway a general tip is to put away all your prestige and dare to fail, then you also have alot more fun along the way. |
These are wise words. And they apply to nearly everything you can do in life. Still it is sooo hard,... ;D
I learned this for myself too not so long ago. But it's quite a mental paradoxon you have to deal with. To get better you have to loose all the stress about skill and awesomeness... |
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Jabo member
Member # Joined: 25 Jul 2002 Posts: 467 Location: Germany
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 2:29 am |
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Sorry, couldn't help it  _________________ CA SB|Flickr |
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Max member
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Posted: Thu Oct 02, 2008 3:57 am |
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Hideyoshi member
Member # Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 303 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 5:42 am |
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Returner wrote: |
Draw and draw. A thing concerning life drawing that came as a bit of a surprise to me was how much you "have to let yourselve go" dare to be completely in the moment.
Only then will you do your maximum. It's the same as the "flow" in any mental task on a high level. You need to dare take that plunge and risk the drawing to be shit, you won't succeed if you guard it from failure.
The way to do this is to look mostly at what you are drawing and only look on the paper when you actually want to put something on it. No second guessing, no analyzing. Looking and reacting.
Some lucky bastards never have this problem to begin with, them I envy.
Anyway a general tip is to put away all your prestige and dare to fail, then you also have alot more fun along the way. |
oh yeah, very much DITTO to that!  |
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