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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:16 pm     Reply with quote
Http://www.deputy-dog.com/?p=91

50,000 people in 26,000 square metres is about 2 people per square metre. And stunning it is too!



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:12 am     Reply with quote
Wow. I have never heard anything about this city. Impressive,...
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:18 am     Reply with quote
i second that
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:07 am     Reply with quote
The story behind it is amazing too.

A small area of land temporarily set aside be the Chinese for some British troops, later developments left it unaffiliated with any government. and it essentially ran itself in a 'harmonious state of anarchy'. Albeit with drugs, gambling and prostitution making up part of that harmony.

It is not purely residential, there were busy factories, shops etc. A volunteer group emerged to take the role of the absent police. It was serviced by a single resident postman (Mr Liu, below).



Apparently you had to use the roof for significant horizontal travelling.

Totally stranger than fiction.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:13 am     Reply with quote
Woah, thanks for sharing. Massive indeed. I googled it and found this picture. I feel a strange memento of Half-Life 2 looking at it.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:01 am     Reply with quote
Uh oh - do I smell a mod? Razz
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:47 am     Reply with quote
Nope, you can actually see it's the same corner of the housing block that is shown in Fred's picture.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:02 am     Reply with quote
I thought Gort was saying it would make a great map for a video game... no?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 10:28 am     Reply with quote
i visited kowloon some years ago... did some gambling and street fighting... mmm good times.

beautiful if you ask me!
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 4:10 pm     Reply with quote
strange, i just came across some of those photos the other day- It was like mini Coruscant! Too bad it got torn down, heard some group got to explore the empty city right before its end.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:21 pm     Reply with quote
Capt. Fred wrote:
A small area of land temporarily set aside be the Chinese for some British troops, later developments left it unaffiliated with any government. and it essentially ran itself in a 'harmonious state of anarchy'. Albeit with drugs, gambling and prostitution making up part of that harmony.


Fascinating. And your background is an extremely good example of how anarchy doesnt work in the real world. As good of an idea as it is, jerkoffs will always spoil the fun.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:18 am     Reply with quote
I'm not sure I follow you. I have only read a few pages on this, but nothing I have read points to it's state of political anarchy as the cause of its eventual demolition. It was evacuated and torn down for health & safety reasons.

For a lawless slum, I get the impression that it ran itself with reasonable order! Afterall, there are many other places you can find drugs, gambling and prostitution (London for example).
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:57 am     Reply with quote
Hmmm.... I read into that a little too much, I think. I got the impression in what I read that it was torn down because it was lawless and filled with drugs, gambling, and prostitution.

Either way, fascinating stuff. for some reason, it reminds me of Pueblo dwelling of the southwest:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:16 am     Reply with quote
Is that a sand castle? !
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 1:24 am     Reply with quote
You're kidding, right? It's adobe: Clay, sand, straw, and manure applied like plaster. It can also be baked into bricks. A standard of ancient southwestern american architecture because of it's insultaing properties.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:38 am     Reply with quote
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A standard of ancient southwestern american architecture because of it's insultaing properties.

yeah... I think insulting properties are the best...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:57 am     Reply with quote
I have been at this place, it was quite awesome. Something like this doesn't really exist in europe...
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:37 pm     Reply with quote
There's actually a really nice book about this place - it's one of my favorite books:

http://www.amazon.com/City-Darkness-Ian-Lambot/dp/1873200137/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-1848354-1867253?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1188012978&sr=8-1

Expensive but totally worth it.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:24 pm     Reply with quote
This is one of the coolest fucking phenomena i've ever seen. Shame they tore it down.

If you look at it from the air it kind of looks like compacted garbage doesnt it? Same impression i got of NY (or any big city really) when i flew over it, but much more so even due to the square shape if it and uneven divisions caused by the whole ad-hoc construction.

Anyway, i am all for the clean beautiful cities, but there always needs to be a slumtown.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 11:24 am     Reply with quote
Drunken Monkey wrote:
This is one of the coolest fucking phenomena i've ever seen. Shame they tore it down.

If you look at it from the air it kind of looks like compacted garbage doesnt it? Same impression i got of NY (or any big city really) when i flew over it, but much more so even due to the square shape if it and uneven divisions caused by the whole ad-hoc construction.

Anyway, i am all for the clean beautiful cities, but there always needs to be a slumtown.


I think other than it being an eyesore and an embarrassment, there were also safety issues. They had to tear it down or it'll probably collapse on itself sooner than later.
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