[Jlpicard]

Just a word about the End of the WW2...

Thanks to the Allies who fought for us, the european...
Especially because I'm french!

May the the friendship between USA and France always continue.
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[Tzan]

I think it will.
For all the arguments that occur we are all very much like a family. we have arguments, but we are still family in the end.

[Jimmyjimjim]

I'll pass that on to my Grandpa. He was at Omaha beach on D-Day. Kinda wierd to think that if he didn't make it, I wouldn't be here today.

[Gort]

Jimmy - good on your Grandpa - make sure you tell him I said thanks. Lots of us will never forget. If your Grandpa ever feels compelled to share any stories, I'd love to hear (or read) about them.
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- Tom Carter

"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield

[[Shizo]]

Damn, i forgot to call my grandma! She worked all her childhood at a factory in Moscow that made ammo for tanks. My grandpa went thought 1941-1945 and reached Berlin. No, he didn't TAKE anything, although many other soldiers did. He died after i was born from alcoholism that he picked up at the front lines.

Important point: No bad feelings to my German friends. I respect German soldiers as much as Soviet because both sides made sacrifice (i'm not talking about the leaders).
Recently i found out that before the war Russia and Germany had great relations and military exchanges (although it was a secret). Like Vasili Zaitzev training in Germany and Hermann Goering in Russia.

[Tomasis]

I love German tanks, fly planes, u-boats and other such wonderful engineering Big kudos to them! Also I have respects to german soldiers who fought even under meaningless conditions unfortunately!

But isn't ironic that U.S. and Britain are in the war while EU with Germany as chairman acting on the different line. lol humans silly humans


/fan of leitz stuffz

[Gort]

The Wermacht were a very formidable foe. They were highly effecient; they knew what they were doing and so much that it took an enormous coaltion of national armies to oust them from occupied territories and send them back to Germany. Historically they are to be recognized if not admired for their military accomplishments. Unfortunately they got wrapped up with that whole political Nazi thing along with Hitler's inability to trust his generals.
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[Ranath]

agreed, Wermacht was the most formidable army in the world war 2. France fell in weeks. The advance in Soviet Union was more than rapid. They dominated Europe for a long time, and if Hitler had let his generals (who knew the situation a lot better than Hitler who was just guessing in his delusions) to make the decisions, maybe Paulus' Sixth Army wouldn't have been surrounded in Stalingrad, axis wouldn't have lost million men there and Wehrmacht offensive would have continued to Caucasus oil fields and Soviet Union would have fell before massing all their potential from eastern parts of Soviet Union.

But I don't think anyone should be admired for their military accomplishments, as war has for the past I don't know how many years been about killing other countries soldiers who (the common soldiers who do the hard work) have no interest whatsoever to fight the war.

[Gort]

clarification: strategic accomplishments

But I do get your point
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"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield

[Tomasis]

It couldnt be worth to blame so called "evil" soldiers either. They were just as the "lowest class" who had to take "beating" from the top thats why I feel that first input here is a bit provocative. As he seems to think that they are Jedi and won against Darth Wader lol

I'd like to take up one example. the conflict between Estonia and Russia. I'm on side of Estonia because they simply dont want see any reminders of Soviet occupations. Then they are being called nazis by russians. Hilarious

I feel like that French guys being friends with Americans are such strange combination because I know how is there between England and France, haha. So I wonder if French refuse speak English still?

[Ranath]

[Drunken Monkey]

What? Someone mentioned Russian involvement in Baltic region?

As someone who lived in Latvia for 15 years i've seen racism from both sides - the Latvians and Russians and its all ugly from either side... but Baltic people are in the right because its their own country.

Russians came there, made everyone learn Russian, renamed all the streets into Russian, and in the end fucked it all up with flawed ideology. So if Estonians, Latvians, and Lithuanians want to be independent i'd say let them. And personally i think Russians should respect their hosts culture or get the fuck out. Go back to that garbage dump that is Moscow, maybe then they will remember why they came to Baltic to begin with.

Anyone who has ever lived in a Russian culture probably knows how disrespectful and unaccepting they are of anything foreign. Its the same situation in Ukraine where one half of the country wants a democratic society and another (Russian half) wants a dictatorship. Thanks to the will of the people for Orange Revolution. Same with Georgia.
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[Jimmyjimjim]