[Max]

You should really take a look at this mindblowing demo.
PS3 Killzone 2 Go to movies - stream for free

Well, they say it's gameplay footage which means its realtime.
If it's realtime it must be scripted, no way...
I don't believe it though. I think it's all pre-rendered and just for marketing reasons to make xbox 360 look dated before it comes out.
There's no way these are ingame graphics. We won't see something like this in the next 3-5 years. It just has to be pre-rendered.
IMO of course. What do you think?

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I quess we will find out the truth sooner or later...

[[Shizo]]

The technology looks sweet. It seems to me it's got.. radiosity-looking lighting, motion blur, procedural textures (on clothes, see second ss), bump/normal/spec/alpha, and all the regular modern mapping.. unless it's all done with real polys and advanced materials.

I think it's possible to have it real time (PS3 has what.. 3Ghz cpu, 500Hz gpu?). However, there might be some quirks. Like 1 scene size is just about as big as you see it on those screenshots and you have to load new scene every 10 seconds. Who knows? I'm just talking outta my ass

Besides, i don't like consoles :0

PS: Game art and mood seems to be STANK CHEEZE!

[gLitterbug]

Well if you think about it, it�s not that far-fetched at all to have those graphics. I mean look at the next-gen Unreal engine, looks fabulous too. Now Consoles always had the big advantage to be tailored to the needs of the games, and only that. They don�t need to run a word processor and on 100 thousand different hardware configs.

The shock might just be due to the "jump", but imo it�s about time that we get some stuff like that going on and finally have shaders everywhere. As said above already, consoles need no fallback stuff, which is probably the reason pc games nowadays don�t look as great as they could. I�m pretty sure though that they picked their images very well to kick xbox360 ass. Good too, because whoever named the xbox 360 needs to get his butt handed to him anyways.

[Impaler]

The Unreal 3 engine is supposed to be the premiere middleware engine for the next generation consoles, just like the Unreal 2/Tournament engine is for the current batch.

Is it a real screenshot? Sure. Just look at RE4, and that's on the Gamecube. If they can pull that game off on a 450 mhz chipset, just imagine what they can do with 3 gigahertz of fully-dedicated computing power.
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[Minefield]

i'm sure it's prerendered.

[-HoodZ-]

it would be nice if it werent prerendered.....we'll have to wait and see...

[oDD]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/616/616591p1.html?fromint=1
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[balistic]

Same old Sony. They killed Dreamcast's sales by lying about what the PS2 could do, and they're looking to do the same to the Xbox 360.

Microsoft is coming from a much stronger foundation than Sega had pre-Dreamcast though, so who knows if Sony's tactic will work.
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[Max]

Nah, I am still not convinced...
This demo had stuff which was even A LOT better than Unreal 3 engine.
Hair and skin shaders, volumatrics shaders, fluid dynamics, clothes, hdri, sofshadows, realtime global illumination, radiosity, motion blur?? Realtime guys!? And the animation...AI,....I could go on. That looks awesome, even for a cinematic.
Well it would be impressive if it really was realtime.
PS3 graphics will look 2/3 as good. Or half as good,....but not THAT good.
Remember the demos for PS2. It was the same. This one might be a tech demo, but not ingame graphics for a normal playable PS3 game.
I am not an expert though and might be totally wrong.

[balistic]

[Max]

Yeah, I did. Even before I posted this. I was reffering to the earlier posts from above...anyway

[balistic]

[Capt. Fred]

Remember those dramatic scenes with an enormous dancing robot copying a woman for Xbox though? That was realtime of course, though admittedly a little a limited. And of course, years on there are shit loads of games that look worse than MarioKart and play worse than a loaf of bread. Consoles seem to puff themselves up more than most other electronics crap. And they deflate the most when you get them out of the box, too.

[Sumaleth]

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=241849

Make of it what you will.
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[balistic]

"confirmed by a sony executive and kz2 publisher" lol
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[Max]

Yeah. Well. We will see - sooner or later. I am still pessimistic.
I will buy the PS3 anyway. No matter how good the graphics are.
It all comes down to gameplay. I hope they have some new ideas...

[gLitterbug]

Ok I just read some hardware facts about the PS3 and now I�m absolutely sure that i does have the power to render all that stuff in real time.

[Godwin]

but even just as a video itself, it was pretty darn cool, the artwork, animation, lighting, camera, mood and everything
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[Capt. Fred]

they used global illumination in the ghostrecon previews, which were also done in that in-game style with the gun on screen and the hud up, that make it look like it's 'for real'. the ps3 must be pretty powerful for realtime global illumination. I'd rather the fake character AI and animation was for real than the than the graphics.

after checking out the ps3 and xbox360, i never felt less interested in console gaming than now.

99+% games are like b-movies, horrendously badly made. That's what needs to change, not the console specs.

[Drunken Monkey]

[Godwin]

[Odds]

Hmph. We'll just have to see what kind of new gameplay stuff comes out. Dark Sector and Perfect Dark Zero look promising, but who knows how they'll turn out by the time PS3/X360 come out.

[ExonGep]

I heard the footage is pre-rendered but maybe it's an example of how great the game are going to look. I'm very sure we would see those kind of graphics next-generation.
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[balistic]

[Mikko K]

[Freebooter]

Mikko K>> Even PS2 with Emotion Engine came close. I could've swear that Jin Kazama in Tekken 4 was a real character with feelings.

Come on guys, no game can be that organic. PS3 may have enough power to run models with high detail textures and multiple mappings and other groovy stuff, but with good looking models there is even less room for crappy animations. No game can look that "fluent", not before they figure out how to really implement somekind of structural behaviour engine for bones, muscles an such. And "real" gravity engine with inertia and wind patterns and ,hell, even surface tension engine for water hey there's a good idea for Molyneux to hop on.

Edit: Ghehe Mikko K I didn't read your whole post. I'm repeating you too much.

[Petri.J]

Well that is definetly possible with ps3. Actually, look by your self.
http://www.gamespot.com/e3/e3live.html (Monday, May 16 -- 3:00pm: Sony Press Conf.)
I truly recommend to look that though
I will say no more.

[Mikko K]

Empty promises so far. They're trying to convince people not to buy Xbox360 but to wait for PS3.. marketing equals bs, but it's working I'm afraid.

[Godwin]

It's not just Sony though, nVidia's in this too... hmmm... they got a lot to live up to
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[Nag]

It�s 100% prerendered.. I asked a friend who works there. This is just a demo/dream of what they hope to get out of ps3.

edit: and apperantly then Guerilla never claimed that it was realtime.. so all just a big misunderstanding