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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 1:10 pm     Reply with quote


Well ok, this is getting a bit repetitive. I'll do something a bit different next time, my recent stuff has all been memorized views from my way back home from school. But for now, in some ways I'm happy with where I'm going except I've hit a bit of a wall... I just can't seem to improve on this somehow. And I'm not happy with it either. there's all kinds of shit that's wrong with it and I just can't put my finger on it. One thing is that using this curvilinear perspective forces me to do everything freehand, which I don't quite have the motor skills for. Hence the wobbly and unsharp appearance.

I would REALLY appreciate brutal critique. Having trouble rendering foliage, materials in general. That blue shit on the ground there was supposed to be wet asphalt. I guess I could point out any number of faults myself but if you wouldn't mind showing a few to me, I'd be glad.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:42 pm     Reply with quote
wasn't sure exactly what i thought so I did one in photoshop. hope it's okay. I didn't make nearly as good a job of the spherical perspective!



another criticism is that there is no graffiti which is surely hard to believe!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:45 pm     Reply with quote
pfff....yea...unsharp...whatever man,,,,i like it a lot...the only thing that really bothers me is that grass in the foreground...its too...green...just looks outta place...like cartoony almost...and...yea...theres definately no graffitu
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 6:46 pm     Reply with quote
also...the underside of the track or bridge or whatever is just flat...from what i know...pillars arent just glued to the bottom of a bridge...
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:06 pm     Reply with quote
I think the background should show more blues due to atmosphere and whatever, would be interesting if you could show a silhouette of a cityscape or something, the asphalt if wet, i think, should reflect more of the colour of the sky

for foilage, well, from what I've observed and learnt, people use the scatter brushes to achieve a textured look, so don't try to render them with the regular brushes unless it's very distant stuff without detail

btw I think the perspective cast on your shadows aren't really right (the left side columns), but I may be wrong, since the curved perspective is hard to visualise



crappy overpaint with mouse
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:24 pm     Reply with quote
I think this is one of your better ones dude. Still kinda matte, but getting a lot better! I dunno if the overpaints improve anything or just change it. :]
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 13, 2005 8:34 pm     Reply with quote
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2005 1:47 pm     Reply with quote
Now that's feedback.

Thanks all.

Capt. Fred: Your version is definitely more striking, though it's not the setting I set out to do... I think I got the lighting pretty well to what I meant to have it be, whether that makes an interesting image is a different question of course. Your asphalt works better, though I was going for the kind of wetness where it's been drying for some time and you just have these patches of moisture here and there still persisting in the sunlight. Kind of a tricky thing to reproduce.

Godwin: yes, the shadows are totally eyeballed, and pretty badly so. I should probably do some kind of top-down plan of the thing to see how they really should go. Or just use the grid... (duh. why didn't I do that?) In your version I don't know where the light reflections on the bridge are coming from, but they are an interesting idea. I've always liked the way windows reflect light onto buildings across the street from them etc.

The_insider: well, I guess it does look stupid, but I actually skated under this place again today, and it is both without graffiti and the pillars do just end like that... Perhaps it would be better to take some license there though.

Ten: you're right about the composition, I focused too much on the rendering and didn't think enough about that... No excuses.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 2:33 am     Reply with quote
Yea I was thinking there could be something beyond (below) the frame that causes the reflection, how possible or how it should look I don't know though, that was just some random idea which I've never seen or tried heh.

I don't know if it's the school computer monitors that are really dark or my home's one that's bright, thought I left the bottom of the bridge pretty dark, heh oh well
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