[silber]

To all Amercian students:
How the hell can you afford to study?

why I ask:
Until now studying in germany was for free, they think about changing that into some fee of likely 1000$ per year.
Most students are pretty mad about that.

I know this is a joke compared to the fee you have to pay in america.
According to my information it is from 3000$ to 30000$ a year, depending on the college.

I WONDER HOW CAN YOU AFFORD THAT???
I know that this is also an insane amount of money for most american families, though nearly 40% of an age group are studying in the USA.

Could someone enlighten me? I'm really curious about that.
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marek

[Giant Hamster]

Actually, we don't afford it. it's called loans and credit. it's called massive debt. It's called a hole you'll never climb out of after you fight so hard for that stupid piece of paper that doesn't garautee you anything.

[Drunken Monkey]

we in america love debt. we cherish it. it gives meaning to life. imagine if you had nothing to motivate you to go out and produce top quality work every day? its the american genious.

*weeps*

[silber]

so are you actually looking for colleges which are cheap and good
or is the one which brings the most dept the best for the career. Are credits easy to get for students ?
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marek

[Gort]

Well considering the money I put into college (which I borrowed), if I had to do it all over again, I'd either go to Art Center in Pasadena, SCAD or the Portfolio Center. Yeah. Pricey. But some of these schools have high expectations for the students, and that's a good thing when hitting the workforce.

American colleges, you must remember, are not only academic institutions but businesses as well. They want to make money. Private schools with highly specialized programs and the experienced faculty to back them are going to charge more.
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- Tom Carter

"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield

[Diruo]

Swedish Universities are free and I don't think we're about to change that any time soon, which is nice. You pay for your student literature but that's pretty much it. I guess there's a reason we have among the highest taxes in the world

[Yarik]

Think of it this way Silber. I live in the CHEAPEST state for college tuition. Only $26 a unit.

I take 16 units this semester...
16x26= $416 for 1 semester.

16units equal to about 5 classes.
each class has books. Each book(even the used ones) cost around $80-120.
Now, $100x5classes=$500.

416+500= $916 for just 1 semester. Then there are 3 semesters in a year. So count yourself how much it costs me for one year.
Please note that these are Community College figures. When I transfer to a university, 16 units costs around $2,500.

I make at most around $250-300 a month. So I barely support myself. Which means living at home.
I agree with the above folks, we don't deal with it. It is called "loans" start getting used to it European folk.

[Impaler]

I have this sneaking suspicion that all the money I pay for college goes towards hiring literally thousands of cute girls in short skirts to stand around and ignore me.

It sure don't as hell go for making my thinking smarter, I'll tell you for sure that much.

(oh, and a lot of [if not most] parents help out with their kid's tuition, not mention scholarships, grants and federal aid available to students)
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QED, sort of.

[silber]

[matter]

my art professor just payed off his student loans last year - he's at least in his late 30's?

we love the pain

-matt
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Sorry! for any digressive, pompous, or just plain off-topic rants.

[Giant Hamster]

College is stupid, Hilary Duff said so.

[Mikko K]

I'd like to know what people who've been to Art Center and schools like that think. Do you think it's possible to get the same information elsewhere, or do self taught people always end up lacking something when it comes to concept design and illustration?

Seems that many pro's have studied in such places, is that because they teach so well or just pick the people with best portfolios to begin with?

[Nilwort]