[Rocco - X]

any beggining sugestions?

[Rocco - X]

dont all post at once

[xzacto]

Ok Rocco - X,

You have a lot working for you right now. Do you know what you are going for? are you looking for dramatic lighting or something else. You have a lot going on with your lighting. Maybe if you tone it down a bit to give it more of a cave feel. because as it stands now, I see a cave entrance, but I see the top right as almost outside in the sun. the reflection on the water looks a bit confusing. I might be able to give some examples a bit later (then again I am not the greatest at lighting either, which is why I post here as well). I love caves myself. I used to repel in caverns down in PA every so often. They are PITCH BLACK (good movie btw) what if you made your light source a single light source from a lantern or a head lamp? unless you are going for the cave entrance look. I really like the very general areas of color, it has a soft look. I think if you zoomed way in and focused on detailed areas it might help to add a more realistic look to it (if that's what you are going for). I am not sure what that blue trapazoid thing is on the lower level of the water. maybe you could resolve a bit more down there. I will post again, I just want to see what you come up with in this great start of a work in progress.

-XZ
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Take some photo refs of waterfalls, study from life.

Keep in mind water is not blue, it just looks that way generally because it reflects the blue sky. (and the sky, mind, is not blue all the time either..).

In this case it will reflect the walls of the cave around, as well as some light coming in from the outside, and where it is dark you may even be able to see through the water.

Imagine your river as a mirror, and paint accordingly. In the center of the water pool it will be darker and possibly transparent as not much will be reflected and we're looking from high enough to see into the water..
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[Rocco - X]

Thx for all the great advice. this is what i have so far. still need help with the water. looks a little catoony to me.

[xzacto]

hmm that looks nice, your light source is kinda working against you right now. the highlight on the curve of the waterfall where it is actually going over the edge should not be as reflective as it is (or white) maybe just a small strip of white at the center of the curve but then dark on the rest. Not sure if you see what i am saying, you could also put a very light, and suddle touch of light on the water and waterfall from the house light that is down there, or maybe add another lightsource from the house (porch light maybe, or even cooler and more poetic, an outdoor fire/fireplace) that might allow you to play around with the light a bit more and even add an element of smoke to mix in with the mist. this could look pretty cool! keep it up.
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[Rocco - X]

Do you like the direction im going with this? I want to but a lot of cool stuff on the dock later on . right now i just want to get all the colors right and a solid consept.

[Rocco - X]

bump

[Rocco - X]

Bump, progress made. Id like to get some comments from some one. anyone?

[Mega Muffin]

It reminds me of the video game Billy the Kid for some reason. Not sure you've ever heard of it, so if not, ignore that. I'm not too sure what that thing is in the bottom left hand of the pic. Maybe a flock of birds? Alos, the lighting on those little caverns look alot like water, probably because of how the actual water looks in the pic; too similar. Also, the right part of the platform is too straight I think. The side with the house on it seems alot looser and I think it would look better if you rounded off those corners at least. Also, everything kind of looks like it's floating, like, I can't tell there is water there. I would probably try some different colors for the platform and house and such, because they blend too much with the water I think. Or maybe just the light coming out of those caverns. Make it more silver or grey or something.

Just to let you know, I am not a very good artist, so take my advice only if you agree with it. I think your piece has potential though. You could even go for the whole James Bond type of thing down there, like it's a secret operation. Just something to make it more interesting. Keep it up!

[Capt. Fred]

i had a go. it is hard, and the water foxes me, too.

If it's in a cave, you've got to be careful with the light you got in there. I think in yours it almost looks like day time, open to the sky�
pic is a thousand words�

I hope it's of some help


[edit] I subliminally took your suggestion mega muffin, and made my paint into a bond thing, haha, hope that's okay :)

[Rocco - X]

Thats tight. Thats totally what i was going for. I wish i was good enough to do somthing like that. Looks like i may just stick with the illustrative style for now though. thanks that really helped me out.

[Rocco - X]

Getting there

[Rocco - X]

Im looking for sugestions on the platorm. Im wondering what else i should put on there.

[Herr.O]

I think the house looks a bit out of place. It doesn't have the same
architecture as the rest of the compound, but maybe that�s what you are
looking for? I would have reworked the house so it looks like a hangar to
the aircraft, with an arch roof and big hangar doors.

Also, I think it would be cool with stairs going down the platform instead of
a ladder. Or you could have both.

It might look good with people/workers running around down there too.

The last few images add a lot to the picture though� I like how the water
turned out and the small lights on the platform below
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[Mega Muffin]

I like those colors down there alot better. And the plane is really cool. I think you should make the lines in the water less harsh. It still doesn't look enough like water on the top. And in those caverns, the light also looks weird. Also, reflect some light off of the top of the body of water down in the cave so we can tell that there it is there. I think it looks alot better though, keep it up!

[Rocco - X]

Ok, im calling it done. Unless you have any final ajustments. Thx to everyone for your help.