[Berkut]

I am always impressed by architectural types of drawings, or different kind of machines with lots of mechanical parts, and I would really like to learn to draw these myself.

To be more specific, I would like to learn to draw things like cities, different types of buildings, "human made" environments, etc. I gave it a few tries, but I can't get it right. The thing I'm having the most difficulties is to make it feel real, sometimes I screw up the perspective and the 3D feeling. So I'd like to get better at that. If anyone knows real architectural tricks and technics it would be awesome.

Some examples:
http://www.ryanchurch.com/ryanchurch_image22.htm

http://www.ryanchurch.com/ryanchurch_AC01.htm

This looks so real! I mean, everything is perfect, shapes, dimentions, perspective, 3D illusion, and it has so many details, yet if you examine it closer, it's very simple. I'd like to get something similar.


For the second part, machines with mechanical parts...Again, I have trouble getting the 3D illusion of the different mechanical parts and espacially the feeling of "deepness", example:

http://www.ryanchurch.com/ryanchurch_image11.htm

This drawing is the perfect example of what I'm looking for...It looks like if you were looking through a window, as if there is some 10-15m in front of you and you could almost touch every little thing, it's literally puping up from the screen!. That's the part I keep screwing up...
I see some horizontal and vertical lines on this drawings, I guess it helps with the perspective, I'd like to have more details on this technique.

I hope it's not too confusing
Thanks.

[UnAlternate]

have you checked out the gnomon workshop videos? didn't ryan church release a series of five dvd's there, covering his techniques?

[Ian Jones]

Someday I hope my art is "literally puping up from the screen!" too!

On a more serious note, check the gnomon dvd's they are exactly what you are looking for.

[Berkut]

Ok, so where do I find these videos? And besides, anything else that could help me?

[UnAlternate]

there's a link to them from ryan church's site.

[skullmonkeys]

[Berkut]

I checked the gnomon school websites and I found some screenshots from various tutorials. It looks great and exactly what I'm looking for. But is there any way I can get these on the internet? I don't feel paying 69 USD for each DVD Kazaa or something like that? Or maybe some of you have them?

[glody]

[seburo]

[skullmonkeys]

Perhaps the value of the dvds depends on how much you want to see him work or how much of a fan you are of his work.
There are other things that are far more useful for helping you to be a better artist. Cheaper. Way cheaper.

[Berkut]

Like what? That's all I'm asking from the begining.

[Impaler]

[Berkut]