Sijun Forums :: View topic - Mayhem City [little update] nothing special

Max · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:14 am

scroll down to see new version. thx

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Hey guys!

Here's something I made some weeks ago.
I wasn't even sure if I should post it.

My plan was something like: a futuristic city in Mattepainting style...
I didn't suceed
I messed everything up, lost in detail.
I stopped after several hours of work.
I think I have to sharpen my skills some more for such kind of stuff.

The only thing I am happy with is the composition...hmm...well
Hope some of you will like it anyway. At least I learned alot and that is what everything's about. it was worth it

Here's a 50% detailshot for those who are interested

By the way, I was inspired by a speedpainting I posted some time ago. I just Painted over it.
I think I like the speedpainting version better.

Comments are very welcome!!!
Thanks for viewing

Petri.J · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:38 am

It's cool, but the whole image is just too "gray", I think you should use other colors also but just blue and yellow.

gLitterbug · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 5:40 am

I prefer the speedpainting version too, this one seems a bit overloaded with details as you said yourself, BUT man you earn my respect, you�re getting really really good.

Matthew · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 6:08 am

Oh yea Maxinator!! :) Awesome this picture and I really liked the speedy too.
you are gonna be a Mattepainting-Master. :)

Keep it up Max
Matthew

noxi · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 6:54 am

Yes, that�s a great picture! It�s allways nice to study details in pictures. This pic doesn�t dissapoint me in that matter. Smile

Oh, and the title is sooooo cool! I wonder what it would like to live in there. And the other people in there? Hmm....

Aikomb · junior member Member # Joined: 08 Dec 2003 Posts: 3

cool
amazing work

XIA · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 11:21 am

YO! Awesome work buddy! Huge inspiration! I really dig it! Shocked

It would be nice if you post you Process and stuff. Very Happy

dfacto · Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2003 12:49 pm

I like the speedpaint much better. The thing is that it has much more atmosphere. The new one is detail laden, but the lack of distance like in the other one really hampers it. Maybe just do a direct paint over your speedpaint and put detail into that one as it is.

Like the detail on this one though. Really amazing.
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Max · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:04 am

Petri.J: thanks! I am a big fan of cold color shemes. And I don't like oversaturated images. You could be right anyway, maybe some warm colors could give this painting more life.

gLitterbug: Hey! Thank you very much!! Yeah, there's just too much detail, or it's wrong placed. I am glad you replied - thanks again Razz

Matthew: Hehe,...Thanks alot!!! Well, I still have alot of practise time...maybe Laughing

noxi: I am glad you like it! Thank you!!! Yes, living in such a city would be cool. Maybe in a hundred years its possible.....

Aikomb: Thank you!!!

XIA: Thanks!!! I really apprechiate it! Sorry, I don't have any "real" progress steps of the city but I found some of the speedpainting: speedpainting steps

dfacto: Yeah, you are right. The dark atmosphere got lost...And the buildings aren't in perspective - so there is no real depth.
Thank you very much! Laughing

syzygy · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 4:18 pm

Ironically I think the speeed painting is better because the composition is better. In the new picture the composition suggests the city is symmetrical (though it is obviously not), making the overall effect less visually striking.

Having said that it is still an awesome picture. good work

Tomasis · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 9:27 pm

wow it is nice anyway

how is about to defining the speedpainting version? add more contrast, details, more feeling of depth (sharpen and blur in some places)

it would be awesome!

AndyT · Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 10:00 pm

It reminds me of viag's style. Stylish but too flat for a matte painting I guess.
The speed painting is perfect ... damn. Shocked

How about starting a kingdom/empire thread? I'd contribute.
And I think there were some people in the speed painting thread who want to practice cities.
They would probably fit. And many people already have some.

No crits from me btw. Just that they are stylish rather than realistic imho.
Rock on!
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Capt. Fred · Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2003 1:55 am

the background has depth. It's jut the foreground which is too flat.
Plus foreground perspective issues are helping to flatten it a little too.

Great pic, nice work, it could really work and it's not far off.

Max · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 5:12 am

Thanks so much for all the replies people!!!!

syzygy: Yes,...I should have planned more. thx!! Laughing

Tomasis: Thank you very much. Well this is exactly what I wanted to do first but then everything turned into this. Cool

AndyT: Thanks, I really apprechiate it! Razz

Like Viag's style?...hmm yeah, actually your right - because of the detail and sharpness I quess. A kingdom/empire thread would be nice thought!

Capt. Fred: yep, that's it. Maybe I'll try it with a blockmodeling next time Very Happy

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Thank you very much Fred!!!

piter · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:31 am

hey, nice work, max. Smile

no crits from me, i'm just happy to see you putting so much effort into this piece.

TGC · junior member Member # Joined: 02 Nov 2003 Posts: 12

Great work, looks like alot of detail. Keep it up... I think you're on to something.

the_insider · Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:53 pm

hey max---ya know i barely see any finished pieces by you so this is really cool to see how far youve come---like said before--i liked the speed painting a lot better---then again i wouldnt be able to do a city like that anyway----amazing work though keep it up
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Leo · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:07 am

Hi there!
Here is a little repaint of your image:

there are still TONS of things to do but hope you can get an idea:

paint simple. Don’t go nuts with details. Matte painting or even illustration is just an illusion, not actual reality. Concentrate on big shapes and values. Choose an appropriate color scheme but add slightly variations to avoid monotony. Experiment with lighting, mood. Look at work of real masters (Craig, Dusso etc.) - you will dig many ideas.

-leo

see · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 9:30 am

Hey Max i just got finally time to post something.

I saw the speed and the final version and i must say the speedyversion is very cool. The final one is a little too much of details. But thats ok. It very well done. Keep up !

@leo: I think you did it ! Very Happy

Max · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:10 am

Thanks a lot for all the input people!!!!!!

piter: Thank you dude!!! Nice to hear that from you. Very Happy

TGC: Thanks alot!!

the_insider: Hehe, very cool to hear something from you. Thank you very much!!! Very Happy

I didn't even know that there are people who really notice my stuff Very Happy

Leo: I am speechless....I feel so honoured! Thank you so much Leo!!!!!!
I still can't believe that you took the time to actually do a paintover for me.
You are one of my favourite artists.
I have been following all your stuff for quite a long time. Wonderful!!! Ah, sorry, I just had to say that.....
This paintover really helps me ALOT.
That really opened my eyes, I start to understand the importance of color and shapes.
I know exactly what you mean Leo, all of this makes sense.
There is so much "life" in the painting now...stunning
I'll take all of your advice into consideration as I start to work on a new one.
I'll keep that in my mind, for sure.
Thanks again Leo, you are just amazing!!!

see: I am very happy about your reply

Thank you very, very much!!!
Yeah, every time I look at it it gets worse...hmm
Your last speedpainting was awesome between!!

Now I am relly motivated. Thanks again guys!!!
It's relly nice to get so many comments - I really appreciate it!!

Malachi Maloney · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 11:33 am

You're getting better every day. It's a little detail heavy both in the foreground and background, so it looses some depth, but still very eye catching non the less.

Good stuff, keep it up. Smile

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Matthew · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:52 pm

yes a really nice overpaint indeed.

I am really eager to see your next piece Max. :)

Matthew

scumworks · Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 7:52 pm

The repaint really focused the image and made it flow, but it was greeeat to start off with.

Max · Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:45 am

Malachi: Thank you very much!! Very Happy

I appreciate it!

I am workin on it Matthew Very Happy

scumworks: thx!

Max · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:41 am

Matthew asked me to bump this thread so I did.

This is mainly a paintover of Leo's paintover.
Well, I really learned alot by doing this. Thanks again.
Theres still alot to do but I call it finished now. I actually said that a month ago...
I just got inspired again....hehe Laughing

Matthew · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 11:51 am

hey Max thank you for the bump, very nice the update much more depth but I feel there was something appealing in that first one aswell.

keep it up Smile

Matthew

the_insider · Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 10:09 pm

heh...looks a lot happier with the blue sky n all...a lot less polluted too :D
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Max · Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 10:03 am

Thanks guys!! Very Happy

Yeah, it's alot friendlier now, though,...it lost the style of the first one.
Well, can't be perfect...

Summer Pudding · Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 4:02 am

This is great work Max. I'm a sucker for dystopian futuristic cities.

I haven't read the whole thread, so I might be repeating the words of others.

If you're after the matte painting look, I'd bear in mind what spooge said on his site about too much detail blowing the illusion. To me, the background seems a bit too busy. Perhaps if you tighten up the foreground detail and make the background detail a bit more vague, you will achieve this.

Pud'

Max · Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:43 am

Thanks alot pudding!!!
Yeah, I know. I actually knew that before, though it's harder to achieve than it sounds. I'll improve by trying again and again. I am struggling with alot of different subjects at the moment....well ya know.
Thanks once again for all the replies guys!!!!!