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Lunatique
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 7:39 pm     Reply with quote
These are the two pieces I've come up with for the cgtalk Machineflesh challenge. Since I can only submit one finished piece, please tell me which one you like better. Thanks!

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=c8b4e632d04cd332d9d73318a9a0bb3d&postid=1278764#post1278764
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 3:11 am     Reply with quote
Both are nice, but I like second one much more both visually and as an idea. Hope you're going to post the finished picture here too when it's ready! Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:29 pm     Reply with quote
I like both, the first one could look great painted by you, and the second one looks like a great idea. However, the composition bugs me, I feel the figures would look better in the center. Just an opinion though.

They're both looking great anyway =)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 1:44 pm     Reply with quote
I do like both, but I would say the second one just because it has a less frequently illustrated message.
I understand Ragnarok's composition issue...and I agree that the figures should be more focused on, though maybe putting them in the center isn't the best way to do it... maybe just cropping out some of the background?

Both have awesome ideas! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 1:00 pm     Reply with quote
Saw your post at cgtalk earlier today, but didn't really read what they were for. If you ask me, I'd also clearly pick the second one, but make the characters more of the focal point of the picture (larger, clearer) and lose most of the background (or just make it not too visible, it's background after all). Anyhow, great job and good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 12:00 am     Reply with quote
Wow, I like both very much. I do agree with the other replies, though, I'd choose #2, it seems very unique somehow. I don't think you should change anything about the focus or the background though, especially after reading what you wrote on CG Talk. The background seems to be telling about their story, their relationship, and what has happened only short time before this "snapshot", hence you'd lose much if you cropped it... just my thought, of course Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 1:24 pm     Reply with quote
yea, the second one has a much better idea to it.

but the composition dose feel weird to me. meybe if you have the table and stuff on the right side of the picutre towards the corner...

yea, i agree with what has already been said.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:23 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks for the comments! I guess the 2nd one it is--with closer cropping.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 22, 2004 6:43 pm     Reply with quote
man you've gotten really good luna. the last thing I remember seeing you make before I left was your meloncholic princess. Kinda makes me wish I had dedicated my absence from this place to improving the quality and accuracy of my work.

and yes, the second one is the one you should go with
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 7:37 pm     Reply with quote
MrTrichomes wrote:
man you've gotten really good luna. the last thing I remember seeing you make before I left was your meloncholic princess. Kinda makes me wish I had dedicated my absence from this place to improving the quality and accuracy of my work.


Thanks. I'm not sure if I've gotten any better at all. Other than trying to paint more complex compositions/settings with more characters included in one painting at a time, I don't think I've really made any breakthrough. My brushwork is still too sterile, and my color sense is still too conventional. At this point, I've been feeling that if my next piece isn't a real breakthrough in the way that I've working towards, I might just call it quits for a while and concentrate more on my writing, music, or photography.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2004 10:20 pm     Reply with quote
i like the first one.
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 5:39 am     Reply with quote
Color roughs now posted: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=1315087#post1315087
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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2004 11:09 am     Reply with quote
i'd take the first one, the composition and theme looks better to me
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PostPosted: Wed May 05, 2004 3:26 am     Reply with quote
I like number two better. The statement is stronger, more heart, less brain. More emotion, less clever. Altho I like the first one as well.

As for the composition - I like the fact that the focus is off center. I think one shouldn't be afraid to make a less central composition so long as there is a balance. The man is looking toward the machine and there is fluid/electricity/information flowing between the machine and the broken woman. If focus is first pulled toward the man and woman and there faces it then flows down and to the left. Focus is not a static thing - the eye moves over a composition, taking in the information. Artists must be aware of the movement.

A rather long-winded explaination... but hey, that's me.
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