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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 9:11 pm |
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Hey all, just wondering if any of you wanted to pick apart my site. Tell me what's cool, what sucks... etc. Any opinion is great.
Hopefully soon I'll get a real host and address, where I can at least link images and post pics. Oh, and there is not supposed to be third party popups. Tell me if you get any.
Anyway here is the site |.:.| DJorgensen |.:.|
EDIT: March 30 - Umm, well I changed the layout, somewhat, hopefully it's better.
EDIT 2: June 28 - It still seems that people are trying the old link.It still exists, however will not be updated anymore.
Regardless, I have changed the link to my domain d-jorgensen.com. The page is mostly the same, however I have implemented a gallery script for simplicity's sake.
Thanks ^_^
Denby J. _________________
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:53 pm |
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wow! what can i say all those broken links just blow me away
oh and no pop ups extra brucey bonus
upload ur /nav directory and then we can see what you've done  |
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Impaler member
Member # Joined: 02 Dec 1999 Posts: 1560 Location: Albuquerque.NewMexico.USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:07 pm |
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Cool:
- Logical navigation
- Nice background image
- Concise information
Sucks:
- Layout graphics are jagged for no good reason
- Color scheme is too contrasty. Make the red less vibrant, or find a better background color.
- The animated blinking light just isn't doing it for me.
- Japanese Kanji are so 2000.
_________________ QED, sort of. |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 4:50 pm |
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Thanks All!
B0b --> I'm not sure why the navigation never loaded for you. Was it just three broken links, or all of them? I have noticed that sometimes the three blinking lights don't load, but it is quite rare. Also when a link is clicked they stop animating. If anyone has had this problem, or knows how to fix it that would be nice to hear.
Impaler --> Thank you, that's the kind of info I want to hear
I'll see what I can do to improve it all.
Also I am planning on changing the auto resize of the pictures to include a scroll-bar if it is too large, but that'll have to wait for a bit until I have the time.
If anyone else would like to add their thoughts, I would be very greatful.
Again thanks! _________________
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 1:58 am |
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ahhh site is now working
very red
your artist page is broken, the picture blocks out the text on the left..
your links page is broken, the links overlap the rest of the site..
Process page is broken, shifted to the right
info page is broken, shifted to the right
same with images page
oh and kill those red circles..
hope this helps
oh and i'll select something other than red and black for site colours..  |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 8:24 pm |
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Hi.
Ok I made some changes (last night, but I never got the chance to upload them till now). I killed the blinky dot, and made things a little less contrasting.
B0b --> These problems seem strange. Does your browser support CSS positioning? Since I only have IE 6.0 I have not gotten the chance to check whether or not it will be completely compatible with Mozilla or Netscape, or any other browsers. Although I must say since I've used the exact same coding for the positioning for each page, the differences in the results at your attempts to view each of the sections comes across as very strange indeed.
Also, the minimum resolution that is supported it 1024X768. I guess that I shall change the scrollbars so that they are visible on the left and on the bottom for those running at lower resolutions (since there are still people that use 600x800).
Sorry for being a bother B0b.
Thanks for the information though. I'll continue to see what I can do. _________________
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B0b member
Member # Joined: 14 Jul 2002 Posts: 1807 Location: Sunny Dorset, England
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:51 am |
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as IE is the biggest bag of shite there is- no i dont use IE
i use Mozilla Firefox - my res is 1600x1200 |
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:32 am |
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Hmmm...creatively speaking it's as hip as anything else, but from a web standards point of view it's pretty bad; this is due mainly in part to the fact that the pageview is way to graphic heavy. Woe to the dialuppers! _________________ - Tom Carter
"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 2:46 pm |
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Sorry for the abscence.
My mother's computer got fried by a power outage and since my computer connected through it to the internet, I haven't been online until now. We got some new parts, and I threw a fancy new computer together for her (actually its better than mine now), so things are finally getting back to normal.
Gort --> as a matter of fact, I myself am a "dialupper". The total load time for the front page with all its "graphic heaviness" should be approx 12 sec for 56k - give or take maybe 2 sec; the total size of all the files loaded (including text) is only 70kB. I did not believe that this size should really be a problem, given that it is an art page and as well lokking at all of the pages now made with broadband in mind.
In fact, the slowest part of the webpage is likely the poor hosting service - not the actual size.
B0b --> Thank you, I shall have to try to get Mozilla for myself to see if it is possible to solve this problem. _________________
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 5:12 am |
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All right.
I got Mozilla today, and I fixed all the problems that showed up. It seems that Mozilla doesn't understand the PADDING-RIGHT style, which was the 'main' problem.
As a result, it should be fine now.
Thank you all for your patience. _________________
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 2:18 pm |
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12 seconds for load on 56K? OK--if I were dialing up and visiting your site, I'd be gone after 5 seconds. Seriously. All in all the way site design works is an assessment of your target audience. If you're just wanting to show off your stuff to the community then so be it--hell--push it even farther; however, if you're planning on using your site as an outlet for presenting your work in the hopes of garnishing employment, work, food, beer, then I would streamline; potential employers don't give a rats ass about how cool and zoopalah your website is (even if it's a web based design position; over designing will not get you the job)--they want to know who you are and see what you do, lickity split; these folks have stacks of resumes to review and websites to visit--the key is to stand out while making it easy for them, and if hosting is an issue then get another carrier.
That's just me, and I speak from experience.
Don't misunderstand me; I am NOT trashing you on this; I think you have a great site but am firm on some issues. Dig?  _________________ - Tom Carter
"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 5:00 pm |
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Naw, I understand what you're saying; however, since at home I'm on dial-up (at best 56k), I've become used to the fact that most (although not all) websites for artists, or the like, are geared towards higher bandwidth users. Take pages made in flash for example, on dail-up even the most simple of pages often takes forever, and yet there are a great al of flash pages out there now.
I do realize that any employer viewing on dial-up may turn their back after 5 seconds, but as well, if they are that impatient or do not have a better connection, is it really wise to try to be working for them? Again I know this is not always the case. If I were really wanting to just display my resume, I would just have the 'barebones' text links to a portfolio sampling, and then the webpage as a last kind of resort I guess.
Also since I am in school, I don't really have time to be doing a lot of work or comissions (as well I don't drink alcohol ) so for now I'm all right with the hosting the I have - although I am going to purchase a domain and hosting for the summer.
I appreciate the response, and I'll definitely keep it in mind.
Thank you Gort.
Denby J. _________________
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faustgfx member
Member # Joined: 15 Mar 2000 Posts: 4833 Location: unfortunately, very near you.
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 8:21 am |
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so 1998. make it go away please. _________________ "hey, wanna dance?"
"do i look like kevin costner to you?
"..no you don't"
"i don't dance with wolves either." |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:31 pm |
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Aww thx faustgfx
I have complete faith in your opinion alone (like we all should).
So other than making it go away, what would YOU do to make it better 'oi?  _________________
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A.Buttle member
Member # Joined: 20 Mar 2000 Posts: 1724
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Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 11:58 pm |
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faustgfx wrote: |
so 1998. make it go away please. |
Bwhahahaha. _________________ . |
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blehblehbleh junior member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:05 am |
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It seems that Mozilla doesn't understand the PADDING-RIGHT style, which was the 'main' problem. |
Yeah bebe, blame it on the browser. Seems like you don't understand CSS, ignorant. |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 5:04 pm |
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Well sorry BLAH, but it doesn't matter now, it is fixed - if you weren't so ignorant yourself, you might have noticed. Alas, this doesn't seem to be the case.
With all do respect however, almost everything I do know with regards to programming I have taught myself through trial and error. I can't say that I've ever read a book on programming in any language other than Java (since I am required to in first year CompSci). So, yes I did not realize that PADDING-RIGHT is not a valid command for Mozilla; yet it is valid for IE - the only browser I had on me at the time. I have since taken it out, so I'm not going to worry about it now - It is no longer a problem.
If you don't have anything constructive to say BLAH, then quit yapping and perhaps draw something to impress us only using hard round brushes. _________________
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 7:47 pm |
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Yeah bebe, blame it on the browser. Seems like you don't understand CSS, ignorant. |
Come on, bleh--try to be a bit more constructive.  _________________ - Tom Carter
"You can't stop the waves but you can learn to surf" - Jack Kornfield |
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blehblehbleh junior member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2004 10:38 pm |
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DJorgensen wrote: |
So, yes I did not realize that PADDING-RIGHT is not a valid command for Mozilla |
You're really stubborn, Padding-Right is a perfectly valid command that works for all browsers, tard. |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2004 9:31 am |
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blehblehbleh wrote: |
You're really stubborn, Padding-Right is a perfectly valid command that works for all browsers, tard. |
Ok sure, except for the fact that it extends the boundaries of the browser window rightwards instead of padding from the current right-most boundary. It does not make Mozilla crash, yet it's intrepertation differs a great deal from that of IE.
Oh, and by the way, PADDING-RIGHT does not actually work correctly for all browsers:CSS Browser Support: Background, Border, Margin and Padding _________________
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Drunken Monkey member
Member # Joined: 08 Feb 2000 Posts: 1016 Location: mothership
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 11:16 pm |
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blehblehbleh wrote: |
You're really stubborn, Padding-Right is a perfectly valid command that works for all browsers, tard. |
Jeez, look we got a professional CSS and HTML software architect here. He is gonna show everyone how incredibly smart he is! Watch out! |
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Wagner member
Member # Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 134 Location: United States
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 1:00 pm |
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text is hard to read, and is realy pixely (but not in a coll sci fi way )
the image is too wide. what if the person is using a 800x600 resolultion? or even smaller? the person will have to scroll all over the place. make the image about 740 pixels wide to fit an 800x600 moniter, and the scrollbar that goes with it.
the image is nice, but it gets in the way and causes uneccecary scrolling to get to the content (this only seems to be a problem on the main page)
the image is also too tall. make it maybe about 500 pixels tall. some people have extra toolbars in their browser and it makes verticle scrolling, and when somebody tries to use their mouse wheel it will scroll the outer page unless you click on the inner page.
underlining things makes it look like a link, so only underline links
that's all that i could think of, hope it helped! |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2004 3:45 pm |
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Thanks Wagner
Currently, I have the the page set uo to require at least 1024 x 768 resolution.
Since under 5% of people seeing the site are running lower than this, I 'believe' that it is fine (yet I am making changes on a new layout in order to make it support any resolution).
About underlining things... I never realized that - probably since all the links are a different color from the rest of the text. I fix it soon anyway ^_^ _________________
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Wagner member
Member # Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 134 Location: United States
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Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 3:37 pm |
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my site statistics show that only 60% have a resolution that is equal to or higher then 1024x768, but since your making a new layout it should all be fine , good luck! |
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goodfellaRUBY junior member
Member # Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 9 Location: nacogdoches, tx
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 1:21 pm |
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i like the layout. i particularly like how the most recently updated stuff is on the front page (i'm assuming that's why they're there...)
the two pics that stood out to me the most was the mountains pic and the demons grasp pic. |
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DJorgensen member
Member # Joined: 26 Jun 2003 Posts: 147 Location: Edmonton, Canada
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Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 4:15 pm |
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oh my...
I was actually patiently witing for this post to bury itself since I've completely redone the majority of the site (of which, I think I'm about 90% done now - just little aesthetics left).
So thanks a bunch! I'm glad you like thos pics too. My hosting will not let me hotlink the images (and I don't use photobucket or any of the such), I rarely get feedback on the paintings themselves. Come the end of April, when I'm finished exams, I shall be purchasing a domain and hosting, so all worries will be put aside...
Again, thanks
guess it's time to edit the title and stuff _________________
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