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Bots junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 9:48 pm |
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The character itself is somewhat finished, the reason it's a wip is because I intend to do a background as well. What does everyone think??? Is there anything seriously wrong with the character that I should address before going further? |
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Bots junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:01 pm |
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100 views and no replies?? is there anything people have comments about or is this a perfect job that doesn't need to be fixed whatsoever??! _________________
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Bots junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 5:55 pm |
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I wonder why hardly anybody has commented. Is it because I'm new?
I want criticism I can work with to improve myself. _________________
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 8:34 pm |
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There are not many people who reply regularly. I think people reply when they see an intriguing image in a style they like.
Maybe the problem are her manga eyes.
Makes the face look weird. This kind of stuff mostly gets a Deviantart kind of comment.
"Very nice. Good job on the art."
Or something like that.
You'll probably get more and better replies somewhere else.
Or if you use a more painterly approach. Bengal-like for example.
What I think ... the flashy red for eyes and mouth doesn't fit.
It should either reappear somewhere else in the image ... or be a lot less saturated.
At least the eyes.
The neck is too long ... the forms not (yet?) defined well enough through values.
The composition lacks a resting area ... to many active elements.
I think she needs more "room to breathe".
The way the legs are cropped off makes them look fat IMO.
The simple side view of the pistol is a bit boring.
Love how you render details though ... and the palette is good IMO (except for the eye color)
Maybe most of this is just a matter of taste. Let's hope more people will reply. _________________ http://www.conceptworld.org |
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geoman2k member
Member # Joined: 26 Apr 2001 Posts: 375 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 10:34 pm |
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i wouldn't take the lack of replies personally. a lot of people just like to look at the pictures, and not comment whether they like it or not.
anyways, it looks good to me. you captured the style of the series well, except for the eyes. look too generic manga for me... ghost in the shell has a unique style that sets it out from the rest. i see that in her body, but not in her face.
keep workin at it. i never get any replies either ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ check out my webpage @ http://www.evanart.com/ |
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Bots junior member
Member # Joined: 04 Nov 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2004 11:19 pm |
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Thanks for the crits! Maybe I'll attempt some more natural looking eyes and a different angle for the pistol... I guess you guys are thinking more about the movie than the comic book or television series (Stand alone complex) which I focused on. I have 2 of shirow's art books and pretty much had those in mind when I was drawing this. It's very anime-ish for those reasons. I'm thinking about redoing the head altogether, which would be a pretty drastic step. _________________
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Ragnarok member
Member # Joined: 12 Nov 2000 Posts: 1085 Location: Navarra, Spain
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Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:17 pm |
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I think the body looks good, but the face needs some more work. Maybe a shorter neck and try to make her head more round, don't know. But right now something doesn't look right.
The hands are bit too "detailed". I'll try to make them simpler to fit with the manga style you're aiming for.
Also I think the pic could use a more consistent light, there are many bright points imho.
One last thing, I'll try changing the color of the background even before you start working on it, right now makes the pic a bit dull. _________________ "Ever forward, my darling wind." -Master Yuppa
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Snakebyte member
Member # Joined: 04 Feb 2000 Posts: 360 Location: GA
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 5:28 pm |
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Hehe, yea, I too am a member of the little to no replies club.
I must first admit that I don�t critique too often, I just felt the need to make a few comments. The image has a lot of potential and I have always been a fan of GITS.
First thing I see is the hand, it reminds me of some of those flash animations from a few years back of metallica �Beer Good, Fire Bad� (don�t know if you know what I�m referring to). The hand to me looks a little �overweight, not to say its to big but more like it belongs on a overweight person. Also, I think that her thighs may be a little too thick but not by much, some shadows may help here. Also, as pointed out, her neck is a little too thin and perhaps long. The face in my opinion could work if you continue darkening the shadows.
Something to consider: Some of the best GITS pics I have seen have eye�s that are 50/50 normal/anime, normal in that they connect at the ends but anime in that they are 50% larger than normal but 50% smaller than anime. There was one posted here about 4 years ago that was a perfect example but I failed to find it in a search.
Overall a good image, keep it up! _________________ Kevin Moore
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The Real Mark member
Member # Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 322 Location: Brisbane Australia
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:04 pm |
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I quite like the eyes and face.
Though i think the pose is slightly off balanced. - the neck could be a bit thincker maybe. |
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fae member
Member # Joined: 07 Feb 2004 Posts: 93
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:19 pm |
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you should feel lucky that you got this many replies from this many different people -
hey, just look at the # of replies on most of 'em... heh. happens to us all =X _________________ ~a shadow, a moment, a memory-- a monument, a legend, a legacy~ |
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Wagner member
Member # Joined: 11 Feb 2004 Posts: 134 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 8:55 pm |
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if you are planning on directly immitating shirows style, then you should make the skin tone have more brown and orange in it. but then again if you where directly trying to immitate shirows style you would have to give her absurdly large nipples, lol.
I'd give the nose heavier shading, i'd make the gun 3-d, and a big rifle instead of a handgun but thats my opnion. i'd also give it heavier shading, and a background. |
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Member # Joined: 18 May 2003 Posts: 97 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 3:55 am |
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*Deadbeat awakens from his long no-comment sleep and speaks*
anyway..
I think the neck is kind of a turn of, the way it look just reminds me of a section of a snake with two lines on it. It just looks wrong, try t make it more, what shall i say.. dynamic, like i real neck.. take a peak in the mirror or something, htats what i usually do.. Love your gun btw (i just cannot draw guns...) but something about the hand thats holding it seems weird.. the thumb and where it connects to the hand seems abnormal. also one last thing, Should the fabric above the opened sipper me more straight? isnt it a bit to wavy..
Sorry for my typos, to lazy to correct it.. _________________ DeadbeaT was here |
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