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Leo
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 4:50 am     Reply with quote
Hi! I'm newbie here... STOP! I'm not a newbie it's just my first post .
100% mousework, NO ANY filters or plug-ins. This is a cropped version, a full one will be posted on my page later.
And now catch 52Kb of data =) !



What do you think?


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Zymac
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 5:38 am     Reply with quote
Looks Great Man, Keep It up.
Lookin' Forward to the Finished pic.
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Blind
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 5:49 am     Reply with quote
Nice work, Leo... I'd also like to see the full size image...
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SPike.CoM
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 8:03 am     Reply with quote
Skillful. But I've never said that you have to suck to have a mouse.

Then again, I don't wanna get the tunnel carpal syndrome.
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ka0z
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 9:57 am     Reply with quote
Cool man, love the lighting and that arm is just right, very nice.
Although I think the face is kinda awkward. I think it's a bit too long.. Or maybe she has her head like that
And the lips are looking weird to me, but its maybe just me heh
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spooge demon
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 10:44 am     Reply with quote


The castle ellipses are a little funny. Don't put points on them, round them more. The oval tool in PS does a proper ellipse (as long as the lens is long enough). Check the blocks on top to get it to "turn the corner" better.

Hope this helps
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airsnake
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 10:46 am     Reply with quote
What kind of mouse do you use ?
magic one ?
Can i have the same mouse ?
I 100% agree with ka0z - lightning is very good, but i guezz it needs a tablet to draw a natural looking face, not so...uhmm... funny.
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Guybrush
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 11:58 am     Reply with quote
all of u out there using a mouse, have u got 'PS2RATE'-proggy ??
if not, get it !!!

later, gt

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spooge demon
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 3:37 pm     Reply with quote


You are looking up at the head, see bottom planes more than sides.

Don't overstate values! Sneak up on them from the middle!

Draw from life more

Hope this helps

[This message has been edited by spooge demon (edited December 09, 1999).]
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Leo
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 6:31 pm     Reply with quote
The full-sized version is up. Check them out!
/Leo

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n8
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 9:10 pm     Reply with quote
hey...sweet pic....and wot u people sayin bout the awkward face??....its got fukin elf ears..!!...its not supposed to be normal...lol...ill post my pic 100% mouse too =)
later...for now i gotta finish it...
but i still want a grafix tablet...they look fun!!
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ka0z
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 1999 11:21 pm     Reply with quote
Ok, maybe it's an elf or whutevah, but in the final version of the pic, the body is WAY to long. Or maybe the excuse is that elf people (elfs?) have their bodies very long and long faces, and awkward lips, and.. and.. long ears! huh!? Well, long ears maybe, but the other things are strange.
But the lighting/coloring is stunning. Even though the caste on the background seems like a decoration, doesnt look real, its kinda flat. Dontya think so?
Anyway.. Great pic despite all my critics
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 12:23 am     Reply with quote
PS2Rate proggy? as in program? What does it do and where can we get it?

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Leo
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 2:24 am     Reply with quote
Wow! Great feedback ! Ok, a few things to explain...
It was a character request for some fantasy stuff, so this girl isn't a human, she is a half drow.
All these proplems you are talking about came from one thing - i drew this pic from my mind, without ANY reference images. Yeah, maybe castle seems like a decoration, but i think it's better than a standart black bg.
Demon, nice touch... my castle sketch was OK (something like you drawing near the "YES" word), but then i've played with a 'smuge' tool it's becoming looking funny oh, well.
And yes, i'm trying to draw from life MORE.
/Leo

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Guybrush
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 7:59 am     Reply with quote
PS2RATE sets the sample rate for ur ps2-mouse !! it's pretty cool..
i think windooze standard setting (for my ms-mouse) was 60Hz.. and now i'm running at 200Hz..
(which is much smoother )
well, get it here: http://www.students.tut.fi/~zibbo/other/

later, guybrush

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Doc Holliday
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 8:22 am     Reply with quote
Hey Spooge GREAT advice!!!! You should post more You have a great handle on natural light. I like how you talk about basic drawing and color. Nice Stuff. Anyways enuff compliments

[This message has been edited by Doc Holliday (edited December 10, 1999).]
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 8:34 am     Reply with quote
Btw people should read the John Singer Sargent(the greatest ever ) articles at Craig Mullins website. It really helps!!! And if mister mullins is reading this Thanks for posting it.

[This message has been edited by Doc Holliday (edited December 10, 1999).]
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tanis
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 1999 1:59 pm     Reply with quote
You're right. Those pages are really worth the time spent reading them. I wish Craig Mullins could spend more time explaining how he works.


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