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Hothead
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:36 am     Reply with quote
Im REALLY new to drawing (I only started a few months ago) and for the sake of this noob.. go easy on me Smile

http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/hothead/scetch_knight_001.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 9:55 am     Reply with quote
Good that you wrote that disclaimer.

Do you just draw for fun or are you looking for critiques as well?
I wrote something but maybe you don't want to hear that.
Let's just say I see a lot of potential.

How would you rate it?
(Not just it sucks or rulez ... what do you like about it and what errors do you see)

Btw. doesn't Angelfire allow direct linking? Why do you only show a link?
And I'd make the image smaller and compress it a little more.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:09 am     Reply with quote
Im looking for a critique (but I am just drawing for fun Smile), I already know a lot of the mistakes, but maybe someone can give me a few a tips Smile.

How would I rate my drawing? I think this is one my better drawings ( even though it is not done yet), but I need to work on quite a few aspects:
1) Make it for lively
2) Cleaner
3) More detailed

And I dont really like his shoulder pads/armor. Dont seem right for some reason.

But what I DO like very much about my drawing is 1) The arm and 2) The head.

Oh and thanks for telling me about angelfire allowing direct linking, I thought they were like geocities and not allowing it.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:37 am     Reply with quote
I see.

Ok then I'll just post some of the things that I wrote ...
This one is kinda funny for example:
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The composition doesn't work. It makes the viewer stare at his shoulder somehow.
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Guess because there are many details and the most contrast.

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The thing in the left half of the image doesn't read too well.
It's a cape, right?
I think the angle is weird.
And the torso could also do with some work. It kinda looks as if there are boobs.

I like the arms too. But left and right arm are too similar.
The head could read better. Actually it took me a while to figure out what I'm seing.
Once I got it I liked it though.
Guess the lighting is not coherent.

And as you already said ... it should be cleaner. That's what I wrote:
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And I'd try a different approach to make it look less messy.
Don't start shading until you have the lines down.


The idea behind it is cool. Maybe you can do a few quick sketches and see what composition, pose, perspective and lighting will push the concept more.
Hope that doesn't sound too harsh.
I think I wrote already that I like the idea and that I see potential.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:59 am     Reply with quote
All that AndyT said. I'd like to add, start to learn to develop the whole image. Don't get to focused on detail yet. The robot pose is a good start. Work in the background now.

Why is the robot in that pose? That's a question I have. He looks like he's doing the Momba Cool But perhapse he's charging his arm cannons or something.

Not always will you need a background image, like with concept character sketches. But since you're new to drawing, learning about backgrounds is just as important a skill as the details of the focal point (In this case it appears to be the robot, thus far.).

As a general rule, things in the background are duller and less detailed. Objects in the foreground have more detail and sharper edges.

Keep up the good work soldier.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 10:56 am     Reply with quote
hrmmm i like alot what andyt said also but i dont agree with the arms they just look to small for his body theyre kind of dis-proporsioned (sorry i spell like a 3 year old on crack) dont get my wrong the idea behind the arms is great maybee just bulk them up a little bit more give them some more meat or metal how ever u wanna see it =]......

also the hood is great thes my favorite part in the whole image i cant even draw a hood that good and ive been at it for years.... the head is fine because hes supposed to have that dark misterious look right just made sure u get your lighting right because from what i see it seems as though the light is shining dirrectly on him from the front so that would light up his face maybee try to light him from the right side so that the hood will sheild the light from his face.....

Also his chest area andyt said they look like boobs and hes right remember pecks arnt rounded they are more squared out and muscular with a little rounding to them.....

hrmmmm as for the cape the way its blowing is a little to dramatic and if it were blowing that dramaticly u wouldnt see them much of the cape u would see it more as a flat side view (not totaly flat u get what i mead hold some cloth in front of a fan on high and see how it blows....

last but not least the area where the legs should be doesnt look right to me hips are supposed to be wider then the waiste for a muscular person and thats what robots are usualy modled after. so try to bring the top of that area out a little more like hips.


That may sound like a lot but its not those are all very simple critiques that i hope will help you with your new hobbie. This is a great drawing for a new artist it shows alot of tallent i hope to see some more of your work in the future and i hope to see the finnished product of this robot..
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2003 5:06 pm     Reply with quote
If you're new to drawing and are looking to develop your skill, then I'd say take a new approach. Less robotics, less shading, more studies. What I think this image suffers most from is a feeling of static lifelessness, due to the pose and linework. Try to say more with fewer lines. Try some gestural drawings. Try to sketch people in various, dynamic poses with very few lines. No scribbling or noodling, just bold, confident gestural strokes to convey the life and motion rather than the details. Once you've gotten that, I think you'll find it much easier to work with a image that practically jumps off the page than with a head-on view of a robot. Less tedious, anyway.
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