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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:50 pm |
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The whole enviromet it is only outlined it will be detailed later on.
I would love to hear some opinions about this concept inkwork this is suposed to be the god of death-life simbolising the duality of life.
he is walking over water (yes he can do that he he)
any way i love to read some opinons about it
(now i have 3 wips to be done, i guess i have enought things to do.)
bw this one it is for an engraving class here at my art school the theme is the dead and i wanted to do something really weird and unconvesional.
 _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + = 
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Ylla member
Member # Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Posts: 160 Location: New York / Chicago / Moscow
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 3:53 am |
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the part where the "head" is chopped off and the crosssectionof the neck has a split face on it reminds me of Hedwig and the face duality theme there.
great texture on the god and the water under him, but the tree-things to the left look very flat comparatively. if i just look at the topleft corner, it's a collection of vertical and semi-vertical lines, and i don't know which belongs to which tree. i assume you are going to continue inking it, since the picture is here in the inprogess section, but i wanted to point that area out to you  _________________ Ylla's Art Gallery
"We spend all of our lives going out of our minds..." ~ Live |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 4:55 am |
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Thnaks a lot for mentiong an author to look up for, i am always interested on knowing authors tha have similar work as mine (i learn a lot by waching divierse tecniques you know =))
and yes i will keep developing the image backgroud to avoid that
flat-confusin feel on the trees.
thanks for takeing the time to coment and critic my image.
bw I visited your site you have some pretty nice things there =) _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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fukifino member
Member # Joined: 28 Aug 2003 Posts: 205 Location: OC.CA.US
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Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 7:58 am |
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Haha..I just noticed the bird on top of the god...love that little detail!  |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 3:18 pm |
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thanks =) i like that weird things because they let the viewer see the scale of the caracter =) _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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Synista junior member
Member # Joined: 24 Feb 2003 Posts: 46 Location: Sherbrooke, Qu�bec
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Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2003 5:20 pm |
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Reminds me of princess mononoke. _________________ The Syn |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:43 am |
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Thanks Hayao Miyazaki it is one of my favorite image creators i would love to be as good as him some day :=)
This is and update i finished the ink work ill prolly will add some color to the image digitally, just for the fun of it =)
(he can walk over water becase of the duality concept, he is very heavy yet he can be very gentle and a light as a feather =))
(bw this a concept sckech for a way bigger engraving for my class, this for my teacher to see, in my writen paper work were i will put all my arguments regarding this creature =))
 _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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Light member
Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 528 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2003 11:33 pm |
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dum de dum.. Not much post here like there used to be, and thats okay because looking at too much art gives me a headache.
I really like this piece. I don't really understand the symbolism in it but it's interesting... somewhat mythological
The only thing i noticed and this is a minor thing is that the weighting of th composition seems to be a little "off". I think the trees should be straighter. The curves tend to make it want to "fall over" just a tad bit. If the trees were straight thuogh.. it might tend to "crowd in". So.. just a thoght.
The ink work is great but you might get even better if you can make the elements more unique in the future. |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 1:12 am |
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my only comments are: great artwork dude! Love the concept/design of the character himself. I love the rendition to pieces tho it's not final. And i think the compostion is worng/off, just slightly, but hard very/time-consuming to alter none the less unfortunately.
just my opinions. good luck with it! |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:37 pm |
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Light:
dunno if some one will read this but one day i asked a teacher if she thinked that i had some chance at succeding on the ilustration world, she responded:
"you can give more"
untill today every time i fell down, i rember that
becuase it made me fell that she tought that i had potencial, some how your post reminded my that =) just a tought =)
Thanks light i guess i am still an artists striving to see wich influensess should i folow and wich should discard, (i mean i try a bit of every astist style that cought my eye to see what i like it and if there is something usefull that i like on that particular style, while i try to spin it wiht a personal touch )
Thanks som much for the advise for the composition,
(i will triy to improve it since this one it is just a tentative concept for my teacher to see (right on tomorrow )
Capt. Fred:
thanks so much for likeing the design of the creature =)
and for the nice words of encourament. _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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Light member
Member # Joined: 01 Dec 2000 Posts: 528 Location: NC, USA
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 9:36 pm |
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Max,
I'm glad you appreciated my critiques. I decided to do 2 "paint overs" of your work to just to see how t would look for myself.
Here are the 2 versions. You can see the difference well if you put yours and then each of mine beside each other in ACDSEE and cycle back and forth. I made 2 versions because I wasn't sure which clouds I liked beter but I think the dotted ones is better now:
http://light1.home.mindspring.com/copies/paint_overs/JMP1.jpg
http://light1.home.mindspring.com/copies/paint_overs/JMP2.jpg
I didn't paste the pictures here because I didn't like it when people posted pictures in my fine art picture thread.
Max the way I see: I listen to everyone, but I decide what ideas to keep and which to throw away. |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2003 11:26 pm |
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Now that is real good man =) i like the new clouds, they give a
better sence of deep, thanks for the paint overs the refleccions on the
water are very nicely improved as well, so thanks a lot for the ideas be sure that i will put in use the data you gave me, (ill up the engraving for my class when done, on the finish up seccion in about a two months or so be sure to chek it out)
frankly i would like that every critic post where as frendly as this one, on a good constructive ambient ones learn a lot you know
utill next update see ya =) _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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Ylla member
Member # Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Posts: 160 Location: New York / Chicago / Moscow
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2003 2:32 am |
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i saw the wip and i see it now. great job! you really pulled this one through i assume it's real ink (and not photoshop or soemthing)... how big is it irl? _________________ Ylla's Art Gallery
"We spend all of our lives going out of our minds..." ~ Live |
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:32 pm |
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The size of a letter page actually, but this image will be used to do an engraving of about 60cm per 40cm aprox. =) i am glad you liked the image =) _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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ViiSolidus junior member
Member # Joined: 12 Dec 2002 Posts: 42
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 11:43 am |
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eh, I'll critiq it a bit lol
I like the overall idea, but I think u should establish yer main light source a bit better, the light/dark tones arnt'r very noticable except on yer creature..
the tree barq look great, but it looks like it doesnt have a true light source, because the dark tones are not so strong... they feel "medium" dark... |
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Connor junior member
Member # Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 4:38 pm |
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Nice clean lines. Quite original.
Look up Franklin Booth on the net and get REALLY inspired. |
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piter member
Member # Joined: 28 Jan 2001 Posts: 114 Location: mississauga, on, canada
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Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2003 1:35 pm |
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i really like this. there is a nice sense of bulk about the creature, and the texturing is great. it reminds me of the illustrations found in fighting fantasy books. good job!  |
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neff member
Member # Joined: 11 May 2002 Posts: 1444 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2003 2:22 am |
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Reminds me of princess mononoke. _________________ *
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maxetormer member
Member # Joined: 14 Dec 2002 Posts: 259 Location: M�xico
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2003 5:48 pm |
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ViiSolidus:
yeah i should work more on those lights i guess, never the less i am still researching data about duality on diferent cultures so the final result will be very diferent from this one =)
bw if any one here has some information about duality bring it on =)
thanks for the commets Neff:
As stated above yeah i like Naussca and Mononoke =)
Thanks Hayao Miyazaki it is one of my favorite image creators i would love to be as good as him some day :=)
Connor: man i just saw his work!!!, it is just amazing what he can do with a pen maybe some day i will master my tecnique as well as him, thanks for the author =) _________________ Never underestimate the stupidity of the human race.Sorrow is the contrast of happines then sorrow is some how the esence of happiness + =  |
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oDD member
Member # Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 1000 Location: Wroclaw Poland
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2003 3:08 am |
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veeery nice, i like the ink work. keep it up _________________ portfolio | art blog |
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