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Pro member
Member # Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 91 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 2:18 pm |
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A concept illustration created for a live stage show, unfortunatly that's all I can say...confidential crap.
The medium is photoshop from start to finish. It took about three days from scratch (including client revisions).
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Cicinimo member
Member # Joined: 03 Mar 2001 Posts: 705 Location: Seattle
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:16 pm |
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Looks awesome, kind of like a pulp cover from the 70s. I think it could use a little greater value contrast to push the characters out, but what do I know, you're the pro. Excellent. _________________ artpad.org |
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Tomasis member
Member # Joined: 19 Apr 2002 Posts: 813 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 6:39 pm |
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It is amazing! no wonder that took 3 days! you are one of Gods =) |
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MCnasto member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 116 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 8:48 pm |
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OMG! AWESOME WORK!
but i agree with cicinimo....
i upped the contrast in the image up, and i added more red to the color balance... hope you didnt mind. i think it gives it more emotion, atmosphere and color.
overall tho u made a truly amazing image... i have no other crits!
keep up the good work! _________________ "Man! I just noticed that I write a lot of fragment sandwiches!" |
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Simoom member
Member # Joined: 18 Aug 2002 Posts: 302 Location: nc, usa
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Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:52 pm |
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i like that, that version looks a lot less washed out, although it might be a little too vivid for the purpose, but something between the two might be right. |
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Capt. Fred member
Member # Joined: 21 Dec 2002 Posts: 1425 Location: South England
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:42 am |
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no way man!
none of pro's pictures I've seen in the speedpainting thread has black in it.
With the values all extreme i just looks like anoter generic action pic.
Those pro values in the darks are sacred! |
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Pro member
Member # Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 91 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:25 am |
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Hello gang-
Thanks for the comments.
I honestly say that I appreciate your criticism. Sometimes I have a tendency to paint too dark. This client even nicknamed me the dark artist.
The piece will be printed 30" x 40" on a large laser printer. Now the printer prints slightly darker than the original. MCnasto I think too much saturation would be harmful, but your right it is in need of that extra punch. So, I made a few adjustments here:
I think pushing it beyond this point is damaging. Here is the color sketch I presented to the client as an intial idea (kind of goofy). You can see even here I was a bit more daring in value/contrast relations.
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:06 am |
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Hehe, I think of you as the "colorful" artist--not the "dark" artist. |
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Mark Harris member
Member # Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Location: Greater Ontario area
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:11 am |
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That's cool Pro.
I don't mean any disrespect, but I much prefer your colour sketch over the finished piece. |
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henrik member
Member # Joined: 26 Oct 1999 Posts: 393 Location: London UK
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 9:54 am |
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Hey Greg, I find the values of your color key so much easier to read. The creature is obviously too big for the archways, but in your finished picture it's hard to tell what's going on. Values are very separated, I think it'd benefit from keeping the values much tighter, especially in shadow. I'd keep push background further away, more atmosphere overall and give the creature's head more shadowing to separate the arch.
Good stuff. _________________ http://www.somniostudios.com |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:12 am |
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I liked the first one the best, I like that kind of washed out feeling you have got in that one.
I think it would be even more cool in a monochromatic tone cause I feel the pink light is kind of out of place, maybe not a professional opinion but that is how I feel, I hope you don�t mind.
But I really like the picture, especially the first you posted above. :)
Here�s what I meant:
see you and keep up the good work
Matthew |
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Pro member
Member # Joined: 23 Dec 2001 Posts: 91 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 10:43 am |
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Thanks again for the comments either way.
The color sketch was my first take on the project; I thought it might look better with Sinbad taking a more cautious approach to the strange looking Cyclops statue. As usual the client (who's paying for it) wants everything happening at once. In jobs like this, I don't have much creative license.
I tried to disguise the Cyclops in the background as best I could. I think it's a silly idea, and will never be built. In fact it's just a repeat of the same ideas in theme park shows over and over again, nothing original here. They always want to show too much in one scene. I'm not complaining...work is work, but it would be nice if my art directors would keep there mouth shut and let the artist do his *&%# job. ------LOL
Thanks for letting me blow off steam
P.S. Thanks again you guys for the help, it's great as usual to get some input. I have just recently started doing all of my illustration work as 100% digital and boards like this are very useful for artistic improvement. _________________ Online portfolio: www.gregpro.com |
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Mark Harris member
Member # Joined: 19 Feb 2003 Posts: 148 Location: Greater Ontario area
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:35 am |
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Agree with you there Greg.
Try doing boards for advertising ('Uh, yeah, when she's eating the pasta ,REGISTER the enjoyment on her face') -whew.... |
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MCnasto member
Member # Joined: 10 Mar 2003 Posts: 116 Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:42 am |
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ya.. the image does look better without vivid color... i was just tryin to get my point across that it needed some more contrast.
i like how you finished it,
great stuff! _________________ "Man! I just noticed that I write a lot of fragment sandwiches!" |
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Ylla member
Member # Joined: 06 Aug 2002 Posts: 160 Location: New York / Chicago / Moscow
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:38 pm |
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i'd really so much like to see the blacks actually be black... so that there is a dark value somewhere outside that left corner. in the the archway and some in the rocks by his foot.
as others have said, it's hard to read a little bit, with the values being what they are.
the original sketch is cute, btw _________________ Ylla's Art Gallery
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Chthonic Divinity member
Member # Joined: 22 Aug 2002 Posts: 191 Location: Philly
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Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 1:17 pm |
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the first pic is perfect.
end thread.
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Sukhoi member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2001 Posts: 1074 Location: CPH / Denmark
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Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 3:19 am |
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I agree somewhat with Divinity. The first one IS perfect although your sketch has more depth, perhaps partly because you can actually see the floor.
But overall I think the whashed out colours give is a retro-matinee-indy-style feel to it. Which I like a lot.
Your brushwork is fabulous.
Sukhoi |
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