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Mangesan · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:46 pm

Why does it always end up like crap?
If anyone please could drop a few lines with a couple of pointers and tips would be very nice. Rolling Eyes

I wanna have it more lifelike... Maybe it's because I'm new to digital art...
I've always stuck to pencils before... Sad

I really wanna learn to do this the right way... Crying or Very sad

Paintovers are welcome to prove your point...
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DRESDEN · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:18 pm

Mangesan, the best tip that i can give you, it's also the best one i ever received is, STUDY REAL LIFE. Look at pics of landscapes, or better yet go outside and study nature. That is the best way to learn. And keep drawing,
PRACTICE MAKES PERFECT, i sound like some kind of teacher, anyways
hope this helps. Very Happy

oDD · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:56 pm

D is right. it looks like you didn't use reference or haven't pay much attention to it. There is too much black. I think that rock on the right is too dark. study the references, see the difference.
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Matthew · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 10:55 am

Hey Mangesan.

I think you have made a good work with this one.
As a tip I think the back mountain could have be placed lower to give the pic more depth but I like how it is now.
Also objects in the foreground can be a little bit more detailed.
I wasn�t gonna do an over-paint but something told me to do an over-paint so I did. it�s just an quick over-paint so no master-piece. :)

Since you wanted tips I will add some more stuff that could be good to know. The mountain and such in the background works well with flat colors and different shading as you did in your picture but when it comes with the foreground, flattening colors should be avoided. So try to make some surfaces stand out and some hidden in shadow and such.
Texture can be made with different colors, I think I saw Anthony do that once in his landscape painting so I added a little bit of small yellow strokes in my over-paint to make some of a texture, just a quick one thou.

Edit - I used to have a different view of reference and such but the guys above gives very good tips to you, try to study reference pictures of mountains and rocks and try to remember as much as possible and then paint it. It�s not necessary to make a copy of a picture, just study it for 5 minutes then try to remember the rock texture or the part you need for your picture.
If you are going for speedy-paintings and just trying to get known with the wacom and boost up the speed in your painting I suggest to just paint away, well hehe you have seen my speedy�s.

Edit 2 - I agree with eyelab beneath here, I really like the picture as it is. highlighting and such depends on where the lightsource comes from and I moved the lightsource a bit, wanted to show you how different shapes can be made. Well hehe I dunno if I make sense in my rambling in this post, if I don�t feel free to beat me up ..hehe. :)

Overpaint:

Keep up the good work Mangesan. :)
see you
Matthew

P.S. I will be reply in my Life-drawing thread tomorrow.

eyalyab · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:08 am

i see nothing wrong with your painting, mangesan. on the `indian shaped stone', you could add a mountain goat on the bump near the top, to add life(?)
on that same indian shaped stone, but on the bottom, i think there shouldnt be so much light.

other than that, i think its great. nice atmosphere

Mangesan · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 12:48 pm

Wow, thanks for all the replies guys!

Dresden: Thanks for the tips... But I know how to draw... It's just when I try to use colors, they tend to look a little to "comics"... Just like a bad episode of roadrunner... Sad

oDD: Yeah, I know what you meen... It's like this... It just looked like large crap when I used lighter colors so I tried to hide the crappiness and it got better... Now it's just crap Laughing

Matt: I'll try to remember everything you said... It's just that when I start making details it just ends up worse than it already was... It's like the details wasn't apart of the painting... Sad

I think you got a better depth than I did so I'll try to remember what you said...

eyalyab: Thanks for the kind words! I'll try to remember to put more life into my things... Cool

All who view this thread: Can anybody give me a tutorial on choosing colors or something like that? It would be really useful... Wink

Again, thanks for the replies!
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