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Topic : "Should I use flash, animated gif, or something else?" |
Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 4:36 am |
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I want to do something like this for my website's entrance page. I'm wondering if doing it in flash will reduce the file size significantly?
The actual animation would be about 550x400, and it just fades from one image to the next--and only 2 to 3 images.
In animated gif, the file gets ridiculously large--totally unpractical. How big would the same animation be in flash? |
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Awetopsy member
Member # Joined: 04 Oct 2000 Posts: 3028 Location: Kelowna
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:28 am |
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well depends how gigh resolution you want in flash.. but if its not too big pixel-wise, flash would probably be the way to go.
the only way to do it in animated gif would be to drop the color depth down to 32 or 64 colors or something.
my $.02 |
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digitaldecoy member
Member # Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 118 Location: germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 12:35 pm |
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Especially the fading will produce a huge filesize as GIF. With flash you will only have to save the three images and let flash calculate the inbetweens at runtime. That�s definetly the way to go in this case. _________________ �Que la fuerza te acompa�e! |
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Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 2:31 pm |
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OMN GOM G OMG OMG OMG OGNAKED WOMENZZZZA!!!!!11! |
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 3:57 pm |
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All and all Flash is far superior to animated gif format, but be mindful that Flash will tax a CPU - no matter how fast. Multiple, tweened rastar images can cause hiccups. The best thing to do is experiment with different compression ratios on your output - try to find the "sweet spot". _________________ - Tom Carter
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 6:58 pm |
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Wow Andy. 81 kb is very small, and the quaity is great! Can I use it? I'll give you a hot, juicy kiss for it. ![Wink](images/smiles/icon_wink.gif) |
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Gort member
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 7:27 pm |
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The swf at full size is slow, but the smaller one works great - looks good!! One of the panels shifts slighty, though. _________________ - Tom Carter
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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digitaldecoy member
Member # Joined: 08 Nov 2002 Posts: 118 Location: germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:12 pm |
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That javascript should indeed produce minimum filesize. Although the chance that someone has disabled javascript is bigger than someone having disabled (or not installed) the flash plugin I guess. _________________ �Que la fuerza te acompa�e! |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:23 pm |
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Gort: Actually the it's the same swf file. The 2nd link is just the downloadable version.
I didn't know what happens when you click it ... yeah it's slow
I saw the panel shifting in the preview version in Flash. In the final I can't see it. Weird.
Lunatique: Sure you can use it if you still want. But it's just a really quick job ... not at all optimized.
The java script fading looks great too . I don't know how many people disable javascript.
I had to make another version ... with pauses:
http://www.andyart.de/ether2.html
http://www.andyart.de/ether2.swf
That's the HTML Source
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<HTML>
<HEAD>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
<TITLE>ether2</TITLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgcolor="#333333">
<!-- URL's used in the movie-->
<!-- text used in the movie-->
<CENTER><OBJECT classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000"
codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0"
WIDTH="600" HEIGHT="450" id="ether2" ALIGN="">
<PARAM NAME=movie VALUE="ether2.swf"> <PARAM NAME=quality VALUE=high> <PARAM NAME=bgcolor VALUE=#333333> <EMBED src="ether2.swf" quality=high bgcolor=#333333 WIDTH="600" HEIGHT="450" NAME="ether2" ALIGN=""
TYPE="application/x-shockwave-flash" PLUGINSPAGE="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"></EMBED>
</OBJECT></CENTER>
</BODY>
</HTML> |
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Lunatique member
Member # Joined: 27 Jan 2001 Posts: 3303 Location: Lincoln, California
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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:23 pm |
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Thanks Andy!
Why is that people say there's more flash than java activated? I mean, it seems you need java activated to view a lot of websites these days--especially many links are using popup windows.
So, should I use the java or the flash? *agonizing* |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 12:02 am |
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I wouldn't disable javascript either. Dunno if that's actually a big disadvantage.
My homepage seems to be down right now. I didn't remove the files yet ... just in case you wondered.
[edit]I just removed it[/edit] _________________ http://www.conceptworld.org
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francmidi member
Member # Joined: 25 Feb 2002 Posts: 107 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2003 2:44 am |
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I disable javascript if the (advertising-)popups are getting on my nerves - works fine . And a lot of javascripts don't work the way they should, because I have a Mac (The "fade"-script also doesn't work). With flash there is no platform-problem. You could ignore the Mac-users but a lot of them work in advertising-agencies - maybe you want them to see your work. _________________ *** Hi! I'm a signature virus! Copy me into your signature to help me spread! *** |
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dsoul junior member
Member # Joined: 26 Jul 2003 Posts: 13 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2003 2:15 pm |
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You should have more control using flash and you won't have too much problems with flash/browser compatibilty, as long as the viewer has the latest plugin installed... which I'm sure a large % of internet users do. _________________ First rule of 604x is you do not talk about 604x.
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