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Dhabih · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 10:46 am

hi folks,

a quick note about the forums, seems like its slowed down like crazy lately. Thats because of a downgrade in the DSL line its running on. I'll look into if its possible to make it a bit faster, if not i may need new hosting. I'd asked if there were any hosting possibilities awhile ago and someone had replied, but at the time i opted to just stick with what i had. But now if anyone has a fast server available for this let me know.

Other than that things are figuratively slow here lately too apparently,. i havent had a chance to visit in a long time (preparing for e3 took up every minute i had everyday for a long time) ....so i've been a terrible host. Been thinking about the future of these forums, and current thinking is leaning towards taking it down for a hiatus and not coming back until a faster server is found, and i can devote quality time here. CAUSE we all know how good i've been at following up on things like getting new moderators Embarassed

I started these forums and have continued to keep them here as a place where art can be shared and questions can be asked and as long as it was helpful to people i'd thought to leave them up, but lately i get the feeling this place it on life support in spite of the wonderful effort my 2 moderators have put in....and probably because of the fact that i haven't been more involved.

So i guess my point is, i'd love to continue these forums, but i'd really like this to be a much better place as it used to be a couple years ago and there are some drastic changes that need to take place before this happens. Reply with your thoughts on the survival on Sijun.com and if you'd even like to see it come back if i take it down.

AND: If you have a server that would be able to host (for free Wink

) let me know....the traffic generated here isnt super huge even during its peak back in the day....

peace,
-dhabih
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dr . bang · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 10:50 am

First, i wanna hijack this thread and congragulate you on the success of Half Life 2. You must be dirty rich by now.

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with this forum lately other than the blazing Turtle Type-R SE speed. Keep the forum the way it is.
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Citizen Cow · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 10:50 am

Sukhoi · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:14 am

The pooheads talk....(sorry Bang Wink

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Life support, pffffht, what are you talking about?!

Sijun is unique. In the way people interact, in who's posting and so forth. I for instance do not post on other forums, merely look.

Sijun is the mother of all artforums as far as I'm concerned. Not because of quality, not because of the people, but because of it's "ways".

Dunno, I'm rambling, but DO keep the forums online!

Life support, pffffht, what are you talking about?!

Sukhoi

AndyT · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:15 am

Right ... Pixeltwisters ... bucketmonkey ... Goodbrush ... /me remembers something ...
http://forums.sijun.com/viewtopic.php?p=156135
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Matthew · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:50 am

Hello

I think the main reason for that the posting lately has decreased is because of the speed.
This forum has been very important to me and I am online on the forum many times a day.
What I would like to see in the forum and what I think would be cool:

*We could have a member of the week, the member who is the member of the week could have his link to his homepage as a sticky in one of the gallery�s.

*I also suggested Weekly Themed Threads earlier when we started Draw Club, I would like to have Weekly Themed Threads where each topic is voted for every week. I think many people would participate in those.

Well those are just some ideas.
Compared to other forums Sijun is surely the best Forum in the Universe so if you are taking it down I would surely like to have the forum back.

Thank you
Matthew

Citizen Cow · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 12:29 pm

oDD · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 1:11 pm

yes the forum got less visitors because its very slow. But for gods sake DONT SHUT IT DOWN, please !!!!

i think this place means too much to too many people to let it die. I bet someone can help, anyone ? i can't do much :/ i planed to post my art here for the rest of my life so:

1. Dhabih: i understand you don't have much time but atleast check this thread once a week

2. If anyone got any solution say it as soon as possible or we are all doomed

I 100% if we will get a good host there will be ALOT more visitors
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ceenda · member Member # Joined: 27 Jun 2000 Posts: 2030

Dhabih: I'm certainly not one of the oldest members of the forum, but I've been here for a few years now. It's certainly changed from when I first registered here, but the essentials haven't really changed. We still have cool art here, we still attract the best talent, we're still open to the best answers to academic, schooling and portfolio questions and we're haplessly free of in-jokes etc. which seem to plague the smaller forums and make newcomers feel unwelcome. I think Sijun at the moment is currently on a winning recipe. There are some of the most awesome pics being posted in the community threads (speed painting, self portraits, propellor thread etc.). The big names are still posting here and newcomer's aren't afraid of posting their art here in order to get good quality critiques and help. The improvement that many of the artists here have made is phenomenal, and that's an understatement.

It might be helpful to give members here an opportunity to contribute to the running costs of the forum. I know that I would be prepared to help contribute to the running of the forum, as I've had a lot in return and learnt alot from the community for posting here.

hwslut · member Member # Joined: 18 Jun 2001 Posts: 100

Umm.. odd, Dhabih isn't saying that he is concerned about the number of visitors. By slowing down, he meant the actual speed of the forum. I'm pretty certain Dhab couldn't care less about increasing traffic. In fact, i'm sure he'd like to have capped it a few thousand members beack. Razz

Edit: I also agree with what ceenda just said. This place has contributed to the growth of literally thousands of artists. I'm sure many of whom would gladly help keep Sijun online if given the opportunity. Like ceenda, I'd be happy to help. I'm sure there are tons more, too.

Dhabih · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 1:56 pm

well it seems like the main problem lately is the speed of the forums, so i'll look into fixing that first and formost. My point with taking it down was just to see if after a breather things can start up good again, but if you guys like how things are maybe all thats required is a little more involvement on my part. anyway, keep discussin, i'm getting good feedback

thanks for the link to that post AndyT i was wanting to find that but couldnt find it originally. (ok, i actually didnt look..i just assumed i couldnt find it)
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Lionel · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 2:48 pm

Dhabih Can you get some figures on how much trafic this site generates? If it is fairly small I have a deicated box that I might be able to run the forums of temporarally. A better solution would be for a whole bunch od us to club together and get a nice server somewhere. I am sure there are a lot of people here who are fed up with crappy hosting of their art sites and wouldn't mind haveing a nice dedicated server to share with this forum. If the trafic is not to high I can set up a test forum this weekend until people come up with a better solution.

Lionel

hwslut · member Member # Joined: 18 Jun 2001 Posts: 100

Yea, some bandwidth figures would help me too, Dhab. I have a few contacts at some large hosting companies from design work I've done for them in the past. Provide me with some numbers to arm myself with, and I'll gladly pitch this to them.

And, I think, greater involvement on your part could only make things better. You seem to be almost a myth to some of the newer members. A LOT of people appreciate what you've done for the digital art community in starting and fostering Sijun. I think those people would love to get the opportunity to interact with, and learn from that person. Not only that, but I'm dying to see some of your recent stuff. Smile

Lunatique · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 10:38 pm

There is one very simple solution--give Sumaleth admin power so he could add new moderators, look for a new host, implement changes to the forum..etc.

It's kind of like, if you're a dad that makes promises, but is too busy too keep them to the children, then let mom carry out those tasks instead, while you keep busy at the office. Make sense?

maxetormer · Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 11:41 pm

...i know i am rather new here but...
All i have to say is that Criag Mullins is here!!! utill i founded this place i had never thought thay i could actuallly see some of the stuff he makes in his spare tiime and wich are his metods to create art, as well as inner thoughs about the trade.

PLEASE dont take the forum down this forum is like a legend, and �cuase that it can�t just die.

this are only a few but heck there are more great artits in this forum than in most of the net i hope sijun lives forever.
Jhon Wallin
Criag mullins
Socar MYLES
Nicolas "sparth"
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Freddio · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:17 am

Yea the forum could do with a boost in speed, but im quite happy with the content the the forum is producing. Samuleth is doing a great job with draw club and the posting levels have eased, now not being so overly intensive, which is nice.

Anyway Dhab dont pull the plug, we can handle a bit of a speed decrease for the moment.

hope you work something out,
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Citizen Cow · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 3:37 am

Sumaleth is the Mom of Sijun.. Shocked

Cool.
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Drew · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 5:36 am

I want Sijun, I want it fast, and I want it forever. Dig?
SumaMom is a great idea. We'd love more Dhabih, but we'll settle for more HL2.

Novacaptain · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:01 am

I don't think anyone would mind the temporary slow-down too much, and besides most of the heavy image-content is hosted elsewhere.
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Socar MYLES · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 9:33 am

I would hate to see Sijun go down, even temporarily. I like to come here for the speedpainting thread and to browse the gallery. Also, there's a few people I only really talk to on here, and I'd fall totally out of touch with them if Sijun went down.

Yeah, really selfish, I know. But, yeah. I like Sijun.
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hwslut · member Member # Joined: 18 Jun 2001 Posts: 100

I also agree with giving Sumaleth admin powers. I think that over the course of 4 years he has more than proven himself trustworthy of shouldering that responsibility, Dhab. You *ARE* quite busy, and you *ARE* absent at times, but Sumaleth is always here. Always has been.

-HoodZ- · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 12:04 pm

eh dont pull the plug...i like Spooge and the Cap'n art here on sijun....i finally have my ass in gear for the speed painting thread......yes it is slow but im still able to browse the speed and propellar painting threads......

liv the fish · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 12:24 pm

All I've got to say is this warning. One of my favorites sites went down for a hiatus and to update software and page design. 2 years later, it's still not back up.

later,
Brian
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Pat · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 1:14 pm

I check Sijun more than my email. A new host might be nice though; try setting it up in tandem with this one and then switch the post data when you're ready to go live. Just please don't make me go back to reading about how I can buy low cost Viagra online and all those sad Russian Brides who want to pleasure me.

-Pat

Awetopsy · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 8:39 pm

Dhabih: I am a Sijun forum addict. This place is my browser start page and I hope to keep it that way for a long time. I really believe in Sijun forums and would be like a cocain junky going cold turkey if this place went down. Ive learned more about art here in the 3 or 4 years Ive been here than any other time in my life.

I still think you should put a couple more moderators in (Im still willing to apply for being a moderator) and give Sumaleth admin rights etc. Im totally fine with the slowness for now.

Just please do not take this place down.

.....please.

Capt. Fred · Posted: Tue May 20, 2003 11:16 pm

Oh man! NO way can you take down sijun!! No! no! nO! PLEASe no!
This is where I live! You gonna make me somekind of interent hobo?

I mean, okay so slow is bad, but stopped (ie. offline) is surely worse.
I'd rather have this forum running at modem speeds than have it gone entirely.

I think I'm gonna sleep infront of my computer

No, seriosuly, There're lot of similar/related forums on the net but sijun is way the best, I mean, WAY the best, so much better than all the others. By stopping you'd just be turning people unhappily away to someother lousy forum.

Freddio · Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 2:22 am

Samuleth and I already have admin rights.
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Tomasis · Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:03 am

capt fred: lousy forums as concept art? hehe

Freddio: if you have admin right, so why not switch to a better host which somebody offered here...

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I feel here as in home Very Happy

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Lunatique · Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 4:19 am

So, this means all this time, the stuff people have been asking for has already been in place? So, what's holding you and Sumaleth back from implementing more mods?

Matthew · Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 5:03 am

Lunatique - I asked that question to Sumaleth and offered to help him out with some moderating thou I wouldn�t be a good mod, but I wanted to help out. He told me that there wasn�t so much to moderate anyway so I guess the main issue right now is the speed issue.

Matthew