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oDD member
Member # Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 1000 Location: Wroclaw Poland
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 6:56 am |
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i don't know how to make those pics interesting. I painted this yesterday. There is a small contest to designing a cover for a simple rpg book. Its based on a famous polish novel. Well i don't know why but to me it looks like a cover for a book for three year olds. Any suggestions ? I know a lot of you got experience in this field so i counting on you.
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azz junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Cracow, Poland
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2003 12:21 pm |
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Well, maybe some action pose? some nice fight.... This contest, could You post a link or something?
Zawsze myslalem, ze Geralt mial paskudna morde ten jest calkiem sympatyczny jak na wiedzmina hehehe. _________________ a.k.a. azazel or eltazar |
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Member # Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 1000 Location: Wroclaw Poland
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azz junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Cracow, Poland
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 1:40 am |
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Thanks for the link. Is there any deadline? There's nothing on that matter there ![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) _________________ a.k.a. azazel or eltazar |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 2:38 am |
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Don�t know about my experience but I can give you some tips and I hope it is ok. If I were you I would tone down the background in the top behind him and some other stuff. I made an over-paint to show what I mean. I have had many comments about my over-paints so if you don�t like it I will take it down immedieately.
Keep it up
Matthew
One more thing, I choosed to give him brown hair. If you have the same hair color as the background it gets confusing, as what I think anyway. |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:12 am |
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Hehe Matthew ... you made his hair and the background brown
oDD: I don't think it's boring.
I just think the eyes and the mouth are drawn as if the viewer is looking directly at his face
... unlike his hair, nose and ear. _________________ http://www.conceptworld.org |
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Shanx junior member
Member # Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 44 Location: St Albans
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 6:37 am |
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Sorry, this is my first over-paint on someone elses work. I thought his head was a little off, so I made it a bit shorter and added some hair to the side. Also I thought he should take up a little more of the space so I moved him up the canvas. He is quite brightly lit, so a light background makes sense to me. I added a brighter buckle type of thing to his chest to make it a little less dark in the bottom half of the picture. Also a hand (though it doesn't look like a hand) would be good to add some detail. It adds something, but I'm not sure what.
I hope that helps a little? You were kind enough to over-paint one of the first ever pictures I posted in Sijun. So I thought I would try and return the favour
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Neole junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Apr 2003 Posts: 8 Location: Bombay, India
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:44 am |
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Hey oDD, get back to dsging sometime!
I'm not sure what the character is supposed to be, if its a warrior then the pose is little meek. If its a noble wizard or something then its alright. In any case the main problem I think is the shoulders are too thin.
Here's a version with broad shoulders, and another more sinister like with the head moved a little lower down the body. I also added a bit of hair to the right side to broaden up the head a bit, plus a bit of brightening up of the gold letters. Shanx's hand and brooch are good ideas too. Hope this helps some.
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Molako_Plus member
Member # Joined: 25 Jan 2002 Posts: 290 Location: Toronto (Polska)
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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:12 pm |
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getting better and better every time i see a post by you.
well the pic itself would be stronger if youd pay just as much attention to the background as you did in the character. and design wise the typography shouldnt be the same colour as the background.
also the sub text is very boring, its very "destop publishing".
i mean you should have picked something more classic, maybe something with serifs.
maybe try a border.....would help to create some depth.
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azz junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Cracow, Poland
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Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 6:55 am |
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hehehehehe Matthew, this guy has to have white hair... that's how he's described in the books ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ a.k.a. azazel or eltazar |
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oDD member
Member # Joined: 07 May 2002 Posts: 1000 Location: Wroclaw Poland
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:11 am |
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Matthew: thanks for trying to help. read what azz said , beside that and the darker bg all you did was smudged here and there
AndyT: thanks for the comment, yes you are completely right about eyes and mouth i can see that i often paint like this, got to change that
Shanx: thanks for the paintover i really like what you did, especially the hand it fixes few things and yeah proportions of the head are screwed too.
Neole: hey there i will come to dsg if i will have time... thanks for the paintover but you made him look more like conan i wanted him too look pretty small
Molako_Plus: thanks , i agree with you.
I tried to apply your suggestions people, spend on it few hours, but then i realized it sucks even more. Lesson lerned - think MORE - than start to paint.
i dont know, lately i can't paint anything good or even think of anything cool, not to come here empty handed... here are some new projects, tell me what you think. i'm starting to think i should give up.
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ZakatH member
Member # Joined: 15 Apr 2000 Posts: 97 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:03 am |
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Hiya!...
Looks good, although I think it needs more depth and "motion" to make it more interesting.
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:58 am |
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i dont know, lately i can't paint anything good or even think of anything cool, not to come here empty handed... here are some new projects, tell me what you think. i'm starting to think i should give up.
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Yeah right
Ok about the new images ... the first one ... I think you have to add something to make it more interesting.
His legs seem to be far apart and still they are parallel to his torso.
How are they connected to the body ;-?
I think the shape of the body could do with some thoughts as well ... maybe show that he has a neck.
I think it has a lot of potential.
I don't like the second as much ... I guess because of the composition and the saturated colors.
Maybe it's not the kind of image that is appropriate for a cover?
Or there's just not enough contrast? I don't know!
And the third ... it's the reason why I reply. I love it!!! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ http://www.conceptworld.org |
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azz junior member
Member # Joined: 09 Mar 2003 Posts: 39 Location: Cracow, Poland
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Posted: Mon May 26, 2003 9:09 am |
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Last one is great. You may even get rid of all these frames, it'll stand on its own IMO. ![Twisted Evil](images/smiles/icon_twisted.gif) _________________ a.k.a. azazel or eltazar |
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