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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 6:56 am     Reply with quote
i don't know how to make those pics interesting. I painted this yesterday. There is a small contest to designing a cover for a simple rpg book. Its based on a famous polish novel. Well i don't know why but to me it looks like a cover for a book for three year olds. Any suggestions ? I know a lot of you got experience in this field so i counting on you.


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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2003 12:21 pm     Reply with quote
Well, maybe some action pose? some nice fight.... This contest, could You post a link or something?


Zawsze myslalem, ze Geralt mial paskudna morde Wink ten jest calkiem sympatyczny jak na wiedzmina hehehe.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:55 pm     Reply with quote
http://wiedzmin.vrpg.net/ArtykulMore.asp?ID=3073

some of my friends that saw the pic din't like him too, next time i will think more before starting to paint. dodalem mu blizene na policzku, dzieki za komentarz Smile
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 1:40 am     Reply with quote
Thanks for the link. Is there any deadline? There's nothing on that matter there Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 2:38 am     Reply with quote
Don�t know about my experience but I can give you some tips and I hope it is ok. If I were you I would tone down the background in the top behind him and some other stuff. I made an over-paint to show what I mean. I have had many comments about my over-paints so if you don�t like it I will take it down immedieately.



Keep it up
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One more thing, I choosed to give him brown hair. If you have the same hair color as the background it gets confusing, as what I think anyway.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 4:12 am     Reply with quote
Hehe Matthew ... you made his hair and the background brown Wink

oDD: I don't think it's boring.
I just think the eyes and the mouth are drawn as if the viewer is looking directly at his face
... unlike his hair, nose and ear.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 6:37 am     Reply with quote
Sorry, this is my first over-paint on someone elses work. I thought his head was a little off, so I made it a bit shorter and added some hair to the side. Also I thought he should take up a little more of the space so I moved him up the canvas. He is quite brightly lit, so a light background makes sense to me. I added a brighter buckle type of thing to his chest to make it a little less dark in the bottom half of the picture. Also a hand (though it doesn't look like a hand) would be good to add some detail. It adds something, but I'm not sure what.

I hope that helps a little? You were kind enough to over-paint one of the first ever pictures I posted in Sijun. So I thought I would try and return the favour Smile

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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 9:44 am     Reply with quote
Hey oDD, get back to dsging sometime!

I'm not sure what the character is supposed to be, if its a warrior then the pose is little meek. If its a noble wizard or something then its alright. In any case the main problem I think is the shoulders are too thin.

Here's a version with broad shoulders, and another more sinister like with the head moved a little lower down the body. I also added a bit of hair to the right side to broaden up the head a bit, plus a bit of brightening up of the gold letters. Shanx's hand and brooch are good ideas too. Hope this helps some.



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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:12 pm     Reply with quote
getting better and better every time i see a post by you.

well the pic itself would be stronger if youd pay just as much attention to the background as you did in the character. and design wise the typography shouldnt be the same colour as the background.
also the sub text is very boring, its very "destop publishing".
i mean you should have picked something more classic, maybe something with serifs.

maybe try a border.....would help to create some depth.



keep it up!
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PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2003 6:55 am     Reply with quote
hehehehehe Matthew, this guy has to have white hair... that's how he's described in the books Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 6:11 am     Reply with quote
Matthew: thanks for trying to help. read what azz said , beside that and the darker bg all you did was smudged here and there Confused

AndyT: thanks for the comment, yes you are completely right about eyes and mouth i can see that i often paint like this, got to change that

Shanx: thanks for the paintover i really like what you did, especially the hand it fixes few things and yeah proportions of the head are screwed too.

Neole: hey there Smile i will come to dsg if i will have time... thanks for the paintover but you made him look more like conan Smile i wanted him too look pretty small

Molako_Plus: thanks , i agree with you.

I tried to apply your suggestions people, spend on it few hours, but then i realized it sucks even more. Lesson lerned - think MORE - than start to paint.

i dont know, lately i can't paint anything good or even think of anything cool, not to come here empty handed... here are some new projects, tell me what you think. i'm starting to think i should give up.






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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:03 am     Reply with quote
Hiya!...

Looks good, although I think it needs more depth and "motion" to make it more interesting.

Cheers! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 8:58 am     Reply with quote
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i dont know, lately i can't paint anything good or even think of anything cool, not to come here empty handed... here are some new projects, tell me what you think. i'm starting to think i should give up.

Yeah right Rolling Eyes

Ok about the new images ... the first one ... I think you have to add something to make it more interesting.
His legs seem to be far apart and still they are parallel to his torso.
How are they connected to the body ;-?
I think the shape of the body could do with some thoughts as well ... maybe show that he has a neck.
I think it has a lot of potential.

I don't like the second as much ... I guess because of the composition and the saturated colors.
Maybe it's not the kind of image that is appropriate for a cover?
Or there's just not enough contrast? I don't know!

And the third Shocked ... it's the reason why I reply. I love it!!! Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 26, 2003 9:09 am     Reply with quote
Last one is great. You may even get rid of all these frames, it'll stand on its own IMO. Twisted Evil
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