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more information:

http://www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=Corel/Products/productInfo&id=1047021764853

[Chthonic Divinity]

id like to see this new mixing feature in action

[Sumaleth]

I'd like to see that new interface they speak of.
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[balistic]

There's a preview guys. Click on "Take Interactive Tour". The stuff they've added to the watercolor looks pretty swank, and the interface seems to be taking some cues from Photo-Paint . . . tempting . . .
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[weapon82]

awesome...the mixer looks really nice.
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[digitaldecoy]

It would be interesting to see if this mixer would produce green when you mix blue and yellow. The presentation still looks like an ordinary smudge tool to me...

And by the way ... what�s that porn music in the background all about?
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[Pat]

Just to clarify, it's hasn't shipped yet. Not until April 28th. But if you preorder now from Corel and get a styling t-shirt.


Digital Decoy: been writing a paper about color mixing algorithms which explain why that happens. Here's an unedited excerpt:

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The Painter's Palette and RGB

The sad fact of the matter is that RGB is a technical standard, not an artistic one. In fact, for thousands of years painters have considered Red, Yellow and Blue (RYB), NOT Red, Green and Blue (RGB) to be our primary colors! As painters we've been taught that you can mix all the colors you need from red, yellow and blue paint, so we're familiar with color-mixing stategies based on those colors. So where's my digital RYB color picker? Astonishingly, neither Painter or Photoshop offers an RYB color picker!

To make matters worse, due to techinical reasons, Photshop and Painter are geared to using the RGB color model and picking an RGB color isn't intuitive at all. If I were to ask you to describe a particular color you're likely report it's relative brightness or contrast, followed by it's hue. Most people say something like, "It's light red-ish green" or "That's dark brown." They may also comment on it's relative saturation such as, "It's kind of a dull blue" or "a vibrant pink." They're certainly not going to say something like, "Well, that's primarily equal portions of red and green with less blue. To the digital painter the RGB color picking model is almost completely useless. HSB (Hue/Saturation/Brightness) is a far more approachable color picking model since it operates primarily based on the way that we think about color. Thankfully both Photoshop and Painter offer both slider and color charts with HSB interfaces, which makes RGB color a little more workable. But in general, most paint programs fly in the face of established painting theory --and this makes it akward to fully utilize your artistic training. Perhaps in Photoshop's case it's excusable given the original genesis of the program was as a photo editing tool (hence the name Photoshop) but in Painter's case the oversight is just puzzling. Worse, Painter's "Color Wheel" system reflects an RGB spectrum, not a traditional painter's color wheel where complimentay colors reside on the wheel opposite each other! How strange! This is what comes from technicians, not artists, programming art tools.

To be sure, these are minor annoyances. However, for an entire genration of painters now growing up using only digital tools, some valuable lessons can be missed. With the additonal power and flexibility digital painting offers, understanding these core principles becomes even more paramount to creating harmonious color relationships.
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You're still thinking in terms of subtractive color models and real paint. Digital coloring is an additive process based on an RGB color model. Sadly, in the RGB world blue+yellow don't equal green. Yellow and cyan DO.

-Pat

[Chthonic Divinity]

[oDD]

it looks more like photoshop , cool i bet alot people will give painter another chance.
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[Anthony]

I love Painter, and the new interface looks like it'll remove much of what I didn't like about it. As for the RGB color picker - I don't care at all, I just move the cursor to the value I want, wherever its sitting on the wheel. It only matters if you don't know your complimentaries yet
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[tayete]

I've been participating in the development of Painter 8 as Beta tester, and I can assure you this new version is the best art program I've found around.

I had always wished Painter had a Mixer, and well, my prays have been heard. The new mixer adds a whole new world of possibilities. It is easy to use, and the best of it all is that it helps you arrange your palette correctly with just the colours you will use, instead of putting millions of colours in your picture.

The new brush creator is simply fantastic. Forget all those sliders (well, they are still there) and strange variables. Now everything is really intuitive, you just change something, and you see inmediatly its effect, and can even try it before saving or using them.

There are also some great new brushes (I still don't know how could I live without the new acrylics ones), and the interface is so easy now, that you can have a desktop as simple or complex as you wish.

The engine is completely new, and you notice it inmediatly. Instead of the famous Painter's brush lag, now every stroke is smooooooooooth...

Just to finish: Do you remember those nice Painter 6's watercolours? They are back! Quick, and not so memory hogs as before.

Well, if someone didn't notice, I believe this is the best version of Painter ever! The compatibility with Photoshop is astonishing, and the natural feeling of the strokes is real.
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[Jin]

Hi guys,

I, too, was a Painter 8 Beta team member (surprise, Tayete!), and think it's fair to say you're going to find a lot about Painter 8 to like.

We're under the restrictions of a Non Disclosure Agreement all Beta testers had to sign so we can't say more than Corel has already made public, until we have the released Painter 8 software in hand.

We still can't talk about anything we learned during Beta testing, while Beta testing was in progress, and/or later.. ever.

It ain't easy, is it, Tayete?

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