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eyalyab
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 7:54 am     Reply with quote
something im working on. i started it about 1/2 a year ago
and it was done (even framed).
recently i added some more hair to her and a hand with a long
cigarette (i know it looks like weed. i need to work on it Smile )
i also need to work on the colors of the hand. i dont have my original palette anymore.
Please commants and crits are more than wellcome.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:28 am     Reply with quote
I don't understand why you would need your original palette to match the color feel. Just use the eye dropper tool to grab colors off the face no??
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 10:34 am     Reply with quote
I'd try using gradients instead of the brush when doing the cigarette. That will make it look more like a fabric-made cigarett than a hand rolled joint. Other than that, you just need to get more contrast and smoothness in ordser to make the hand look like the face. I too belive that you can get the colors by plcuking the face, but I don't follow the same school of CGing as you, so it might not be true...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:43 am     Reply with quote
That black chunk taken out of the nose is confusing. Not sure exactly what you're trying to achieve with it, but it doesn't look quite right to me. The cigarette, as you mentioned, is a little shaky; I'd try using the lasso to straighten it up, rather than freehanding it. Also, the slope of the forehead down the nose isn't right for that perspective. Seems like you should see some of her forehead, and possibly a touch of her other eyebrow. Unless the hair is meant to be falling over that side of her face, in which case you should make that more apparent.
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eyalyab
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 2:32 am     Reply with quote
first off, thanks for the comments/critics they are very helpful.

to clear it off, there is supposed to be hair going down on her forehead and covering part of it. thanks for letting me know it looked confusing, tinush. ill fix it.
didn't think about using the gradient tool. thanks kurki. ill do that. you're also right about the contrast in the hand. i did the face with airbrushes, and the hard with small hard paintbrushes, thus the difference. i should stick to the old method.
about picking the colors, its a bit hard because i used on the face big airbrushes of a neutral skin-color which was dodged and burnt and some more big airbrushes of olive green and red. i did use the pick tool and wasnt very successful. ill work on it though.

thanks again.
btw, do you think i should lose that street light?
does the smoke look ok?
anythin else i should add?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 4:17 am     Reply with quote
Brutal? okay: I'm not so keen on the street light, I think her eye brow could look less hairy, more femine, and I'm not see keen on the effort to include her chest. I think here hand's too dark, her nose is too up pointy and her teeth aren't at the right angle/right perpsective/angle. Those last points are especially minor. Other than that, I think it's Cool. : D
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 4:50 am     Reply with quote
This probably wont be of any help at all... but to me she looks like Michael Jackson. So scary. If that's what you were going for then you managed to make me shit myself. Smile

It has good points, technically and graphically it is very striking. You have used a very powerful lighting source to good use. You need to warm up that hand. It is very cold compared to your existing skin tones. Oh yeah, almost forgot to mention that the cig looks like it attaches to the skin on her fingers a bit. Hope that helps.
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eyalyab
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2003 6:04 am     Reply with quote
people dont seem to like that pointy nose, i guess. Crying or Very sad hehe..
i think it's also what makes her look like michael jackson.
i went for ultra-high contrast in this drawing. one side of her is supposed to be unseen! maybe i overexaggerated on the other nosetrill
well, anyway, from the comments i got here (thanks alot) i think i will give her the following jobs:
nose job
eye-brow job
forehead job
orthodental job
new hand (no.. not hand job) ;]
+some more work on the eye
+lose the street light

what do you say? anything else?
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