[BelgianArt]

Hey guys, I decided to study real life objects. Now I thought it as gonne be easy since the manga chars flow out of my hands as if it was the easiest thing on the planet. But now I tried drawing this statue of mozart I have here, in front view. Omg it looked awfull !! Any tips for home studying ? I don't take classes cause there's only one school here, and well, it is bad, it's more like a kindergarden then a school
The cloths etc.. is no problem, it's just the face, the end result looked like an evil devil instead of the good old mozart The nose and the eyes and the mouth, just terrible, terrible terrible !

Help a fellow out !

Thanks !

[AndyT]

Links that might help:

Light on the Basic Forms (Successful Drawing):
http://www.gameartworks.com/LoomisBooks/successful/page_03.htm
Tone (Creative Illustration)
http://www.fineart.sk/loomis/page_04.htm

From "Figure Drawing for all it's Worth"
http://www.fineart.sk/page081.gif
http://www.fineart.sk/page083.gif
Procedure:
http://www.fineart.sk/page087.gif
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[Snakebyte]

About 3 years ago I did the same thing, the transition from anime to real life isn�t easy. In retrospect I find that anime is a VERY easy art style which is why so many people get in to it and can get good at it. It�s very forgiving when it comes to anatomy and color and detail and�� hell just about everything depending on the style.
For me the transition was made easier because I had already started to change my style in the previous months. Changes such as skin, hair, clothes, and anatomy reflected that of a more realistic style except for the eye�s, nose, and mouth which were still anime. Finally, when a friend of mine asked me to do some characters from a book he was writing all that I needed to change was the face, since then I haven�t went back.

So, depending on how you feel about anime it may be easier to gradually shift to realism as opposed to a rapid change to realism.
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[makototaramoto]

I was the same way also..it was aniem and only anime. I wanted to learn 'cell style' colorign and nothing elsebut when i saw these great pictures which looked like paintings or were paintings i found out in the process of realism it effects your you anime character desighns and you would also be able to bring more weight to your drawing with a realistic touch to it...but anine/manga will never be out of my system... but thats what i think.....


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[BelgianArt]

I succeeded to making a normal looking eye, and nose, now I got to work up those lip skills lol. But I'm just wondering, I can only draw 'realistic' when I draw in a huge format (like the eye is bigger then my real eye ..), but when I try to draw smaller characters the eyes look like .. cartoon eyes, I wonder if you guys had that problem too, and how you solved it (besides alot of practice, what was the thing that you did wrong and took a while to found out about it ..)

Thanks

[Snakebyte]

Well, for me my anime eyes were never THAT extreme I always kept it reasonable, maybe 1.5x to 2x the size of a regular eye. I guess it depends on how big your used to drawing them, going from BIG to small changes the face in so many ways it no longer looks right. Youll just have to do it over and over till you get used to it.

Oh, the thing I kept screwing up (and still do) is the lips, they turn out okay untill I realize they look just like the other lips I have done, closed mouth with a slite smile.... ALL of them...They also tend to look "Pasted" on, so you need to pay attention to light and shadow.
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[Periadam]

This seems to be a problem for most people who get into anime fairly early. I find it's best to start out drawing realistically, then once you get good at that the switch into anime is quite easy, and you can go back and forth at will.

I'm pretty glad I did it that way, rather than drawing anime first.
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[BelgianArt]

Anime is just super fun when you're @ school and it's one of those 365 days where you just DON'T want to pay attention

[Lunatique]

I was pretty lucky that early on (when I was about 14), I was fascinated by both realism and anime/manga. I would drool over Mikimoto's watercolors, then turn around and drool over Bouguereau, Boris, Assael..etc. I did both anime style and realistic portraits, so it became natural for me to develop a style that's like a hybrid of the two. In the end, it's much easier to try stylized work AFTER you've gotten your foundation down solid. With a strong foundation, you can do any style under the sun.

[gezstar]

Sorry to be the devil's advocate, but I've got to disagree with you guys (well not all of you) about manga. I'm half Japanese and I've been reading manga since I was lickle. I'll concede that it is relatively easy to become good at being a manga-clone, but the most innovative/distinctive manga artists (and there are many) almost always have in common the fact that they learnt the basics (figure drawing and stuff - i.e. realistic drawing) before distilling what they observed in reality into their own simplified manga style. Check out Slam Dunk for some stylized anatomy that couldn't have been drawn withuot a foundation in observational drawing. Plus, you'll find that characters aside, scenery/environments in manga are almost hyper-realistic (see GTO for e.g.). OK rant over

[BelgianArt]

Problem with the feet now, I used to just draw the .. form of the feet so the outlines, not the details, like the toes etc..

What exactly is the principle in drawing real looking feet ? (I don't care if it's with 2 toes, or with al 5 of em) I tried and I tried, but they just don't look good, so not shoes, but nekid feet..

Thanks

[plastikman]

it wasnt really that hard for me because even though i still do anime projects i still however am inclined with my traditional realistic studies...only because i have to be because you wouldnt believe how many people hate anime

[Vhy]

I think you should invest in the Bridgman book - it is pretty cheap and has a lot of the information you want.