[Matthew]

Hello
I have read a lot of different post�s and thread�s and is often hearing that people are often up late and kind of has this insomnia thing going on. I am going to bed late at night and are often not sleeping that well. How are your sleeping habits?

Is Insomnia something that artists suffer from?

have a nice day
Matthew

[tayete]

I've thought of this many times, as I really envy Leonardo's way of sleeping: just 15 minutes every 4 hours were enough for him.
I tried to sleep just 5-6 hours some time ago, but I failed, I felt tired.
Now I sleep 8 hours and feel really well, though sometimes I wish I could only sleep 4 or so to have more free tiem.
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[faustgfx]

dunno what it's based on.. but some people insist that you have to sleep an event amount of hours e.g. 0, 2, 4, 6, 8.. otherwise it'll be bad sleep (wtf?) and you will wake up tired and angry no matter what.
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[egerie]

faustgfx - really ? I never heard that hmm interesting. Maybe that's where "getting on the wrong side of the bed" is from.

I used to be able to pull off a week with sleeping 2 or 3 hours per night but now I feel like I'm 97 and NEED to have at least 7 hours of sleep per night.

That said, I have a tendency to fall asleep really late no matter what.. even if forcing myself into going to bed early and getting early on an extended period of time it just won't work. I seem to function a lot better at night. The brain seems more lucid (???) or at least full of ideas.

I hate having to walk in to work on 8:45 slllleeeeeeeep

as for Leonardo.. no wonder he had so whacked up ideas I have to try that one out.... but naps make me feel all wonky..
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[faustgfx]

i sure know 1 hour of sleep gives me a headache and won't make me feel any better.. same with 3 hours, 4-5 hours is ok if i'm not too tired, anything beyond 7 hours i will wake up with nausea.. shrug.

and i can't sleep if i'm drunk. i'll get a hour or two of shut eye if i'm lucky but that's rare. being dead tired is really really horrible when yer completely blasted but still ....sane enough to realize you're dead tired. shudder.
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[Ragnarok]

If I don't recall it badly, there are different phases when sleeping.
Something like hour and a half...
When I sleep around 7 and a half hours I feel ok, the same with 9. When I sleep 8 I wake up sleepy.
Sometimes with 6 I'm ok.

The other day I slept 4h and half and didn't feel really tired. Stayed awake and doing things for 11 hours...
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[Awetopsy]

heh.. Im almost exact opposite.. If i dont sleep an even number of hours, 6 or 8 then I feel totally sleepy... I usually like to get 8 hours.

Ive never suffered from insomnia.. I sleep like a log.

[gLitterbug]

I think I sleep way too much and the last days I seem to be always tired, even though I slept for too much hours already...

[AndyT]

[Ragnarok]

Over this weekend I've slept around 12 hours everyday. I had this bad cold...
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[haohmaru]

i can't sleep before 3 or 4 in the morning. no matter when i decide to go to bed, i will lie awake until then.

concerning hours: 9hours are perfect, 8hours are horrible(tired/angry/unable to concentrate), 7hours are good as well. anything below 7 is not enough, everything beyond 9 keeps me tired the whole following day. right now i'm getting about 4hours of sleep a day, because i have to be at the university at 8:45. works fine for a few days, but i have to sleep more on weekends then, which often brings up another problem: i can't sleep when i am drunk. same like faustgfx here. i'm lying awake for hours, but no way i could actually fall asleep.
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[edraket]

If I go under 7 hours its a downward spiral. For the rest I haven't really analyzed it. Sometimes I feel like a rag sometimes I don't. I tend to not look at the clock when I go to bed. Because If I feel like I should be tired I tend to get tired eventhough I am not really tired.

I do have problems sleeping when I am working really hard and extended hours. There is this point where I get tired and then I get passed tiredness and I just feel kind of weird. Except for I can only function on high speed you know? And I get those endless thought streams that are about absolutely nothing usefull. When I am like that there is just no sleeping. And when I come down I fall apart. Which is my current state actually.

I have also noticed that when I drink coffe at night I tend to wake up around 2 or 3 and be absolutely awake. This always happens eventhough I wouldn't know how to explain it. I fixed it with placebo coffee. As long as it tastes like coffee...

(I guess this is why I only have like...400 posts)

[Matthew]

Those times when I slept for 12 hours I found it impossibly to go to sleep the following day, I usually sleep for 5-6.
Should follow Leonardo�s sleeping habits then..hehe
Thanks for answers.

Matthew

[Asurfael]

I sleep about 4-6 hours a day normally. Then I start feeling like a corpse, and sleep for about 12 hours. Works for me. If I keep the 4 hours of sleep per 24 hours up for long, I lose my inspiration to do anything. I feel old.
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[Returner]

I need alot of sleep, 8-9 hours to function at peak performance
But normaly I just get around 7 hours. But anyway I've read that the brain adjusts real quick to fewer hours of sleep. After a couple of days of 6-7 hours of sleep you ALWAYS wake up after around 7 hours on a weekend for example. The brain has gotten used to a certain sleep cycle and is trimmed on those hours, kinda neat.
I'm real envious of people who can sleep for 5-6 hours and do something meaningful that day, like matthew seems to be able to.

[eyewoo]

One of the secrets to getting along on little sleep is to take a 20 minute catnap mid afternoon. Doing that many people can cut a few hours out of their night time sleep.

Also, if you have insomnia, check the amout of caffine you ingest. The way caffine affects people is really different from person to person. Some can drink it all day long and others will lose sleep with 1 or 2 cups a day.

I generally get along on 5 or 6 hours a night, but if I get just a bit sleepy mid afternoon, I'll take a quick (10 or 15 minute) nap right in my chair. Great energizer...
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[Minefield]

on weekdays around 6-7 hours and it takes varying amounts of time to get sleep, lately i've tried to make it easier and usually fall asleep in maybe 20-30 minutes.
but often it's impossible to get rid of thoughts no matter what and you end up lying there for long time awake. esp. after drawing a lot before going to bed, strange things going on in the mind.
after i started working out i've slept better, which i expected. plus change in diet.
but at night around an hour before sleep i try to relax, some ambient music and crap like that.

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[Ragnarok]

About the naps, it's true. I usually take a nap of about 20-25 mins everyday.
But beware, taking naps of longer periods, like 45 mins or an hour will let you sleepy all the evening. And at night you won't be able to sleep.
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[Max]

That's very interesting.
I use to sleep 7 or 8 ours.
I haven't ever tried to use some ours for more freetime.
I think I should....
That 20 minute catnap sounds very effective.
And what's about "Kenpo Chi-Kong"? - paranoid
Is this hard to learn?

[edraket]

I have tried meditation and yoga too. Especially yoga works for me because i can concentrate on my body.
But when my mind really gets going nothing can stop it. Whatever I try.

And paranoid...That falling when you fall asleep thing is interesting. I have that all the time. Often I spasm so violently that I wake up again..sometimes repeatedly.

[oDD]

hymm , i sleep waaaay too much. Sometimes like 12 hours. My problem is that when i'm at home during the day i can't do anything, i just go around and waste time, and when it's midnight i got so many ideas , so much energy and i just want to paint/do other stuff, and i end up going to bed when its 6 in the morning.

The thing that upsets me is that not sleeping at night is unhelthy, right ?

i don't know what to do, when i wake up after 8 hours of sleep i feel SOOO sleepy i can't even open my eyes. I only get up if i really have to (for egzample to work, i skip classe:) )

i will try to mess whit that phases of sleep + plus that 20 min nap thing

ps. i don't drink coffe
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[Giant Hamster]

general sleeping habits diagramed as a week:

Sunday - Wake at 7am Goto sleep at 12pm
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Start of pattern:
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Monday - Wake at 8am - sleep at 2am
Tuesday - Wake at 9am - sleep at 3am
Wednesday - Wake at 10am - sleep at 4am
thursday - Wake at noon - stay awake all night
friday - Still awake from previous night - sleep at 7pm
Saturday - Wake at 5am - sleep at midnight
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/End pattern.

so, basically, 6-8 hours each night progressively staying awake an hour or so later each night, then stay awake 2 days in a row, and pass out mid-evening, and wake up at stupid times in the morning before the sun has risen.

[brainwash]

If you cannot sleep in, just don't move until you're asleep. Sounds silly, but it seem to work! Read and tried it yesterday.

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[Matthew]

hehe

[Atherium]

for me it is just consistancy, if I go 7,4,8,4,7,3,6, in a week the fangs come out and their is hell to pay. But if I get 5,5,5..... then I am good to go and dont really have much of a problem staying alert and happy. Although I do recommend a mad deep 12 hour sleep session once a month.

[tayete]

HAMSTER I wouldn't be able to sleep thinking in the following day's sleeping schedule if I had to follow your method.
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