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Amanda Price
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2002 10:31 am     Reply with quote
http://starwars-rpg.net/swag/view.php?photo_id=871&screen=0&cat_id=25&action=images

Um, I hope I did this right. It's my first post. I'm very amateur and looking to improve. I have a gallery at SWAG if anyone cares to check it out. Embarassed
Looking for some honest feedback.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 7:16 pm     Reply with quote
looking to improve? youve come to the right place...

looking to get lots of replies? probly not here..... mind you.. you're a girl.. so you might get the replies anyways. Wink

anyways welcome.. and keep on with the drawings..

(im a SW lover too)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:37 pm     Reply with quote
nice I like it n_n
the only thing that bugs me is his left arm...looks like its broken hehe


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Amanda Price
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2002 10:40 pm     Reply with quote
oh...
Did I post this in the wrong place? Embarassed
I was told by some Swaggers that this would be a good place to get constructive feedback.
Maybe I've got my wires crossed. Confused
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 1:11 am     Reply with quote
Nah, you've come to the right place Smile

It looks good.. but his left arm bothers me
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:40 am     Reply with quote
hmmm, So you only want critique or what?
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Amanda Price
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 9:05 am     Reply with quote
Not necessarily. I guess I'm new here, and I'm not too familiar with protocol. Smile

(Yeah, his left arm IS pretty goinky. Tee hee)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 12:32 pm     Reply with quote
Not bad at all. The arm is a little off, as mentioned, but I think it's mainly just that heavy black line along the elbow, which suggests that his forearm is behind his upper arm, when it should actually overlap it. Also, the shading seems a little misguided and vague. Pick a light source and work with that. In this picture, the primary source would most likely be the huge glowing mass in his hands. Shade according to that. Also, and this is just a personal preference, I think you could make that glowing thing a little more flashy and bright. Otherwise, the linework looks good, and the colors, while a little too saturated for my tastes, look fairly well chosen. I suggest you keep going with this, though, and work on giving it some depth.
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Amanda Price
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 12:09 pm     Reply with quote
Thanks, Tinusch! I'm not too familiar with my tools yet(photoshop), and I guess my small amount of experience has been with cartoony style drawings. I'm finding my biggest obstacles are light sources and fabric folds.(Hence, this guy is wearing tight pants and no shirt Wink )I'm assuming I'm having difficulty with these aspects because I don't work with models! When you're trying to create an image that comes straight from your mind, it's difficult to picture the details.
I own all the Hogarth books, but I wonder if anyone could suggest reading material or techniques on light sources.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 3:44 pm     Reply with quote
hah! i owe so much to hogarth to!! Smile
look for his book about drapery and shading. that should help, if u r already at it.

in photoshop use your ability to creat layers to help yourself in the lightning and shading. u can try creating a layer for shadows and a layer for the highlights. than play with the layer options and opacity a bit to achieve something nicer.

or do something else i tried myself -
creat 3 identical layers that contain only the very very basic colors (without the artline). no shading. than with the image>adjust>variations and brightness\contrast change one layer to very dark and a lil blue-ish and another layer to green and then brighter. put the green-ish layer over the dark layer and use the quickmask option (in the layer window, the circle inside a squer) to hide all the layer (color the quickmask in black). then with some delicate tool reveal the green-ish layer (setting your tool on black to reveal or white to hide) where the light hit the figure (on top of objects\muscles\etc.
you can also do the otehr way around and not hide the green layer and slowly reveal the dark layer.

the third layer is a backup layer so u can go back and change stuff

it's a ncie easy way to achieve a partly done shading with a good color for objects whose colors are changes cuz of the light source.

after getting the shading done withthis u can flatten the layers and adjust the small errors that will follow your work.

hopefully i helped just a lil bit
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Amanda Price
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 10:15 am     Reply with quote
Thanks, Topeira, that helps a lot! Very Happy I can't wait to try out the tips! (I always knew layers were the key to really handling photoshop, but somehow, I thought I could avoid them)
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 11:03 am     Reply with quote
everyone did. but it's like the IRS. i think u will be the one to get away with it , but it finally gets you, just like it does with everybody.

but always remember kids - layers are your friends Smile
try to post a newer version of this one, colored better. i'd like to see it sometime.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 31, 2002 5:02 pm     Reply with quote
Will do! Smile
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