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bluetraveller
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 4:43 pm     Reply with quote
This is how i feel today. It's not a picture of me...but it feels like mE!



Worn out in this world.
Relatives and friends at my throat
Demanding I get a "real job".
Wondering how much passion i can muster
Before submitting to despair...

Maybe i'll put up a "happy" picture by xmas. 8^{
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 9:09 pm     Reply with quote
feeling bloated...but not so angry anymore. heh.



Nobody seems to be responding to any of my posts.
Am i doing something wrong? For every picture i put up I respond and provide crits for at least 2-3 people. Is there some etiquette I am not aware of?

Thanks in advance
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 21, 2002 10:08 pm     Reply with quote
I generally try to repond to posts, if someone is asking a specific question. Or if an image has a glaring problem. Otherwise there are just too many posts here to give a bunch of general criticism. So maybe your stuff doesn't have any obvious problems. For a quick paint sketch it looks fine to me.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 12:16 pm     Reply with quote
Not bad. The colors are a little muddy in the first amd a little washed out on the second. For a quick sketch, it's not bad, but it's not too pleasing to the eye due to the blurriness and splotchiness of the shading. It looks a little too "rough around the edges." It definitely needs some hard strokes in there. The form is difficult to discern. It's almost amorphous. You need to define your planes solidly and deliberately, instead of generally shading and highlighting all over. It's definitely a good start, but if you overpainted it with some bolder, harder planes it would look a lot better.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 12:50 pm     Reply with quote
Hello
I like the first one best.

Merry Christmas
Matthew
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 4:37 pm     Reply with quote
Yes. I have to agree. My artwork lacks solidity. I don't really know how to get it. Or if there is a good example of how step by step to create a face somewhere. I heard that once you've mastered a human face...everything else pales in comparison.

I'm searching through the backlog of sijun threads for a good facial or Painting tutorial. Can you believe that I"ve studied fine arts at my university and was NOT taught how to paint???? I wish now that I had gone to art school!

Thank you people on this forum for opening my eyes! Any direction to tutorials yours or otherwise would be extremely helpful!

-off to crit some other people's work now (and to learn from the feedback they got!) 8^)
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 22, 2002 11:51 pm     Reply with quote
I do like the 2nd one better. Can't crite much about it. Look like good start to me. and I see all your art. You do have your style. Like soft smuge style. Don't need change your style and work more on lighting. paint from life. Pay attention on where is the light resuce. study where is the dark side and where is the sadow.

I over painted your 2nd one. I don't have model front of me. the light just I think it maybe is. doesn't look reasonable. And turn out is my style. I don't see can do much help. But there it is.
This is very good link. you can find help.

http://www.fineart.sk/loomis/page_02.htm


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 23, 2002 8:59 am     Reply with quote
ChiaNI

I love you I love you i love you. THANKS!!! THANKS!!!!
I've been trying to learn from studying your 10 000 self portraits and figuring out, "HOW DID she create such lovely tone in SO MANY STYLES???"

I even bought Painter because apparently EVERYONE seems to be using it!
Thanks Jinny!

Season's Greetings To everyone for your HELP and PATIENCE!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 3:34 am     Reply with quote
Trying again ...

What do you think? Still gotta work on lighting. But not giving up! The next picture with better lighting should be better. Thanks ChiaNi...following your advice.




Happy New Year Everybody!
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2002 12:45 pm     Reply with quote
MUCH better. I like that one a lot.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2002 12:31 am     Reply with quote
thanks Tinusch ....what an interesting name.

Here's the lit version



getting there...though this time I"m getting a little "soft round the edges." I think i'm overdoing it!

'night everyone

zzzzzzzzzzz
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