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eBoy member
Member # Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 74 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:25 am |
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Hi all fellow painters...
I would like to know what you think of this piece... does it "read"
I started with having the figure in silhuette, but the client wanted to get the character more in the light.
It's a bookcover with both the back and the front... my god my english writing sucks today--- hope you understand...
Looking forward to hear your crits.
[img]http://www.lime.dk/board/NG_preview02.jpg[img]
Hopw do I insert the image??[/img] _________________ "...look at me mom, I'm on the internet!"
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jr member
Member # Joined: 17 Jun 2001 Posts: 1046 Location: nyc
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 7:46 am |
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gotta put the /img at the end. nice piece btw. suggestion, maybe less detail on the rocks in the forground? or darken it abit? _________________ ![](http://www.jrtistic.com/oldsite/images/links/jrn.gif) |
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antipro junior member
Member # Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 20 Location: upstate ny
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 8:06 am |
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wow, beautiful! lovely complementary color scheme. the detail in the rocks might be okay; it seems to fit the rest of the depth of field, since you can see detail in the trees behind as well. the green hues are awesome. i look forward to seeing more of your work.
erik _________________ Good... bad... I'm the guy with the gun.
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Member # Joined: 30 Oct 1999 Posts: 2898 Location: Australia
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SolarFlux member
Member # Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 77 Location: California
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 1:33 pm |
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WOW! I like it more than 75% of stuff floating around here. _________________ SolarFlux
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Sukhoi member
Member # Joined: 15 Jul 2001 Posts: 1074 Location: CPH / Denmark
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 2:10 pm |
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Cool stuff, eBoy!
I only have some minor crits: How about the eyes, is there a reason for them to be in the dark? I mean in the story. Clearly it looks good, but have you considered how it affects the viewers perception of the character?
The blood stuff is a little on the 70'ies movie side, a little bright and read. You know.
Always loved your style.
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jayceeL member
Member # Joined: 23 Oct 2001 Posts: 154 Location: UK
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 2:23 pm |
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This kick's soo much butt Nicely done
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 2:32 pm |
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Awesome staging and diffusion of perspective elements! The garb appears more Chinese than Japanese, though (contrary to the topic title) _________________ - Tom Carter
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Cuddly member
Member # Joined: 02 Jan 2001 Posts: 161 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 6:23 pm |
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Very nice! Love the colors and the mood. I'd have to go with Tom and say it looks more like a Chinese than Japanese character tho'. The tassles on the sword, the long ponytail and the clothes are all more Chinese than Japanese elements.
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Inspector Lee member
Member # Joined: 28 Oct 2002 Posts: 270 Location: San Francisco, CA.
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Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2002 11:58 pm |
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I like it just the way it is. Great composition, very different. _________________ Smokey, this is not 'Nam this is bowling. There are rules. |
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ChiaNi member
Member # Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 516 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 1:10 am |
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Eboy: you are one of my favorit artist. I like all your post. _________________ Holly sprite |
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NeoFun member
Member # Joined: 12 Oct 2000 Posts: 263 Location: California
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 2:28 am |
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well done! always a pleasure to open your threads _________________ i like rice. |
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eBoy member
Member # Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 74 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:16 am |
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Thank you all!
The reason for not showing his face is partly that I find it cool to make a BLACK shadow only in the face, and partly because I want the readers to imagine the maincharacter in their heads!
I must research a little on the chinese vs. japanese issue... he definitely has to look japanese!
Regarding the blood I somehow like that it look "overdone" ... graphical... so it becomes more a symbol of blood, than actually blood dripping off the stones!
Thanks again all... will post an update soon
eBoy _________________ "...look at me mom, I'm on the internet!" |
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:36 am |
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Woo - better get busy on your research!
A samurai, when not in armor, would typically wear what is known as a hakama. The pony tail would most likely not be long and braided but short. The katana (sword) looks good but should not have tassles.
There is a very inexpensive yet thorough book out there on armour and garb; I have it but I am at work, and I cannot remember the actual title. I'll post it when I get home later today. In the meantime hit the web and library - you know the drill! You might want to even try for some material in a hobby store that specializes in miniatures - they are certain to have books on armor and details, etc. _________________ - Tom Carter
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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eBoy member
Member # Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 74 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 7:43 am |
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Thanks Tom.
I see your point... but actually, he's not a REAL samurau... and the pony-tail is for the graphics... but anyhow... I have to remake him... he's looking too soft in that kimono thingie!
I'll give him some nice armor.
Cheers
eBoy _________________ "...look at me mom, I'm on the internet!" |
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:28 am |
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You could always try some tradional medieval civilian garb.
By the way, the hakama might look kind of soft, but it was instrumental in hiding the footwork of the samurai from his opponent. The hakama is still used today in kendo and aikido - two arts firmly rooted in art of the samurai.
So post the next draft when it's ready - I am looking forward to it - your work rocks! _________________ - Tom Carter
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Member # Joined: 23 Jun 2001 Posts: 2662 Location: Carbondale, CO
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eBoy member
Member # Joined: 18 Jul 2001 Posts: 74 Location: Denmark
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Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:59 am |
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Here's an update.
I think he look more ninja-ish now?!
What's a hakama Tom?
You meen his pyjamas? well... I've corrected that one now
Comments still appreciated.
Cheers
eBoy
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Gort member
Member # Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Posts: 1545 Location: Atlanta, GA
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Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2002 6:11 am |
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A hakama - go the right hand column of this page and click on the "Kanai Seminar Pics":
http://www.aikidoatlanta.com/
The Yundansha (black belts) are wearing hakamas over their gis, while the Mudansha (non black belts) are just wearing a gi (video stills courtesy of yours truly).
About your painting:
One thing that seems to bother me is the blood. Your primary light source seems to come from behind, but the blood being on the other side of the rock face (in shadow) seems a bit too luminous and therefore lends itself to be coming from a red light source - almost; it also doesn't appear to drip or streak downward in relationship to the perpendicular establishment (which appears tilted in this case - a good thing in that it makes the painting more dynamic and interesting).
Overall it rocks!! Fantastic work! I checked out other stuff on your site - awesome stuff! _________________ - Tom Carter
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BooMSticK member
Member # Joined: 13 Jan 2000 Posts: 927 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2002 3:34 am |
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excellent Emil. Looking real nice.
Guess this is a wraparound cover (both back and front), right? A first I thought the composition was a bit odd, with a feeling of falling to the right, but if you cut the left part of, I actually think it works well. Anyways I would probably tilt the mainchar abit more to the left, so he doesn't align so with tree on his left (the big one).
But my main gripe is with the foreground cliff. I think you should lessen the contrast and make it darker. Right now I have a feeling that there are two light sources for the rocks - one for the top right and one for the rest... which is kinda wierd IMO. The form is just not very easy to read thus making it flat and looking abit like a cutout. Making it darker will also seperate it better from the figure since I think right now they look to be on the same plane. Seperating them will give better depth too
anyways.. another nice looking cover! great work! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) _________________ big-badda-BOOM! |
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