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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 3:53 am |
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Hello!
This is my 900th post here. Cool somehow..I like 900 more than 1000...well
I have learned endless much here. ( eh, nothing changed with my bad english )
Well, I have improved alot since I found the sijun forums, and my knowledge about art is at least ten times bigger now.
So,...I have to thank all who helped me improving my skills.
Blablabla,....here is the image I want to show you.
Yes, you can call it a simple copy - 'cause it is a copy.
I love this image of frodo so much - I just had to copy it.
Took me some time but it was very funny and I have learned alot.
Hm, not very creative that's right, but till now I never tried to achieve photorealism.
Ok, here it is - you know it, I guess
Detail
http://www.8ung.at/max.kulich/sijun/frododetail2.jpg
http://www.8ung.at/max.kulich/sijun/frododetail1.jpg
Steps
http://www.8ung.at/max.kulich/sijun/frodobagginssteps.jpg |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:15 am |
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Oh my God! that is totally incredible.
I have to agree with you, the best teachers are here on the forum...hmm I think I said it earlier but it�s worth reapeating.
Thanks for adding the steps, I love to see how other work.
Did you start of with a soft brush and then blurred the image?
have a nice weekend
Matthew |
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AndyT member
Member # Joined: 24 Mar 2002 Posts: 1545 Location: Germany
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UkiTakuMuki member
Member # Joined: 20 Nov 2002 Posts: 156
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 4:49 am |
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... i... it... i...
/me dies
:p i just wish ill learn and improve like you did!
awesome stuff as usual, nothing to crit :> if i shrank it to 50% in PS, then i'd say its just like a photo! |
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Cuddly member
Member # Joined: 02 Jan 2001 Posts: 161 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 5:31 am |
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Max, this is truly wonderful, inspirational stuff! Nothing wrong with copying as you've done it. I'm planning on doing the same to study light, color and values.
Oh, and congrats on that 900th posting! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 9:40 am |
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Thanks a lot guys!
Matthew: Thank you. I noticed that you also improved a lot since your first post here - Congratulations !!!
And, yes, you're right about the softbrush.
I use it to paint the main shapes. But I didn't blur it afterwards.
Hey, Andy, I'm glad you like it!
UkiTakuMuki: Please don't die - you will improve - sometimes fast - sometimes slow. Thank you very much!
Cuddly: Thanks Just go for it, copying is a very good practise. |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:26 am |
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Thank you Max.
Cool tecnique with the soft Brush, I�m gonna try that out.
By the way, 900 posts are impressive. see if I can compete with you..hehe ...hmmm..sometime.
The Race is on.....
keep it up
Matthew |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:27 am |
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Haha, Matthew - good idea.
Shouldn't be a big problem for you.
You post in nearly every thread. You're very fast....Let's see... ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Matthew member
Member # Joined: 05 Oct 2002 Posts: 3784 Location: I am out of here for good
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:34 am |
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hehe....one more for me....hehe ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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faB member
Member # Joined: 16 Jul 2002 Posts: 300 Location: Brussels, Belgium
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 11:37 am |
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Interesting, did you colour the black and white ? You painted values, then color? I haven't seen many artists use this technique, just wondering because the 'steps' picture shows it in black and white. _________________ "I'm not a shrimp, I'm a KING PRAWN !" -- Pepe.
selfportraits & stuff |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 1:12 pm |
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Matthew: Yes just ONE hehe
faB: Yes, you're abolutely right.
First I painted black and white then I made a new layer set to color mode and added color.
( Torstein Nordstrand gave me some very good tipps, thanks ) |
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eyewoo member
Member # Joined: 23 Jun 2001 Posts: 2662 Location: Carbondale, CO
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Torstein Nordstrand member
Member # Joined: 18 Jan 2002 Posts: 487 Location: Norway
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 6:55 pm |
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Looks swell! It all looks natural, which I presume was your goal. Very nice handling of tones all over, you have a good eye. Everything hangs together. I especially like the texture on the upper part of the sword.
If I would do anything different I would add some colour variation to the important parts of the face and hands. Like his lips and eyes, could be a little more defined, and some more blood showing beneath that skin. If you look at old master paintings (like Bouguereau and many others), you'll see they often use multiple colours to make skin look radient and glowing, it might look like a single hue/saturation, but look again. There is colour play there that makes the skin come alive. So some variation (both in hue and saturation) would be nice, also his eyes should be blue, methinks?
I recently coloured a photograph, and found it useful to put an unsaturated neutral bluish grey tone down first, then going over applying a more saturated colour on important parts. It really gave them life.
Forgive me the long rant Max, great study! _________________ www.torsteinnordstrand.com |
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antx member
Member # Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Posts: 320 Location: Berlin, Germany "OLD EUROPE"
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 7:14 pm |
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Wow, I was sure your answer to faB�s question would be "no". I did not think that it was possible to put in color only at the end and ending up with such quality. Even now I can�t see a hint of it. Very well done!!!
About copying: I tried this myself several times but have to say that I just don�t learn anything from it. I alway find myself at some point in a machine like copying mode with no thinking going on. Just looking at the ref and then make the same in my version. I�m now going to try a different approach by copying only the subject and light situation, but using a different pose and such so that I force myself to think about what I�m doing. I hope this will help me. |
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SolarFlux member
Member # Joined: 14 Sep 2002 Posts: 77 Location: California
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Posted: Sat Dec 07, 2002 10:47 pm |
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even though I hate that movie.
It is a nice frame.
splendid work. _________________ SolarFlux
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I don't know much about painting but I'm trying to learn |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:00 am |
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Thanks for all the input guys!!!
eyewoo: Thanks alot! I will, of course
Torstein Nordstrand: Thank you very much! I know what you mean.
The face and the eyes were the hardest part and they're still not perfect.
I will try to give the face some live. I will try to handle this with hue/saturation like you told me. And yes, the eyes should be blue..hehe
Thanks again for all the tipps.
antx: Thank you! Well it's easier ( for me ) to start with Black and White and color afterwards - I love this technique.
Yes, and about copying: I remember someone said that you shouldn't spend more than a half hour on a painting as far as pure practicing goes. And I think that's the same with copying. Uh oh, so I spent 24 1/2 hours more....hmm
But the most important thing is to have fun - and I had
SolarFlux: Thanks ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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ChiaNi member
Member # Joined: 11 Sep 2002 Posts: 516 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:40 am |
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Max: I say. this is Wow wow... This is the best of your post. I have nothing to crite. _________________ Holly sprite
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Max member
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:59 am |
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ChiaNi: Hehe, thank you very much. Nice to hear something from you! ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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dontfallin member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 170 Location: Vancouver BC
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Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:21 pm |
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what happened to your site?? me and friends were laughing at all the crap there , and how you always acted like a little jerk... then your site dissapears and you come around with this.....I get it I wont blow your cover COUGH!!(CHEATER!!!) damn Im such an asshole... bet you thought I was gone (you'll probably attack my grammar again ) |
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Malachi Maloney member
Member # Joined: 16 Oct 2001 Posts: 942 Location: Arizona
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 4:14 am |
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Nicely done Max, a big step forward for you.
~M~ _________________ l i q u i d w e r x |
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Lolion member
Member # Joined: 24 Apr 2002 Posts: 94 Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 5:18 am |
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*Said with my best surfer-voice*
DUDE...
![Shocked](images/smiles/icon_eek.gif) _________________ Live to win,
Dare to fail. |
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legolas member
Member # Joined: 04 Mar 2002 Posts: 62 Location: Holland
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 6:04 am |
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Great realism, Really cool! I wish I could copy realism, what was the scale of the original? _________________ Visit my website at http://www.homeoflegolas.com |
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Member # Joined: 13 Jul 2002 Posts: 62 Location: Boston, USA
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 8:54 am |
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This is definitely an excellent piece! I second the comment about the face, a bit more red here and there and it will look perfect. Maybe, make the Sting glimmer and shine a bit more (I am lucky enonugh to have a replica of the sword... I love it!).
Now that the second movie is coming out and thanks to your painting, I feel inspired to draw another LOTR inspired piece.
Great work! |
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Max member
Member # Joined: 12 Aug 2002 Posts: 3210 Location: MIND
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Posted: Tue Dec 10, 2002 12:04 pm |
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Malachi: Thank you! That means much to me
Lolion:
legolas: Thanks!
It's just a matter of time! The original size is exactly 2000 x 2727.
robcamp: Thank you for your comments. I will keep that in mind!!
Ah, and it was YOU who inspired me to paint this. Thanks again ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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