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Timon
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2002 6:10 pm     Reply with quote
In the last 4 Months , i changed my mind. Before this time i was often playing counterstrike , this crappy game which is played by kids below the age of 12 or something like that.

Now i think we have to stop this.

This Picture does reflect my mind.


I made this with an pencil, the Blood is added with Painter 7
*sorry for my bad english*


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 2:43 am     Reply with quote
COUNTAR STRIEK 4 EVA U M4D MOFO !!1
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:41 am     Reply with quote
HEy flat..i keep noticing u seem to forget to hold down the 'shift' key when doing ur exclamation marks...hell its even on your website on a preview of your amazin up and coming comic strip -
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 5:40 am     Reply with quote
SO WUTS UR POIN+
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 5:59 am     Reply with quote
It's Flats trademark.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 8:03 am     Reply with quote
Stop what? There is no need to act like a social worker and say "this is bad for kids, even though this game isnt ment for kids and not alot of kids play it" I myself dont play counter strike but i know that it is a good game.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:54 am     Reply with quote
maybe a god game , but unsuitable for kids below 14 , or 16 years.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:19 am     Reply with quote
CS is a dumb game Rolling Eyes Makes me want to smack those dumb little kids and make them smarten up, the world is fawked up enough, don't need more stupidity Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:24 pm     Reply with quote
I got a Counterstrike song....

YA YA COUNTERSTRIKE BA BA
IT IS THE STYLE OF THE BOOM BOOM MA MA


well, there it was.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 3:34 pm     Reply with quote
I can�t understand this Counter Strike thing, I think Half - Life was better without the CS Mod.
But still, nr:1 game .....Quake2.......That still rocks.
Id Software is god.

take it easy
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 4:13 pm     Reply with quote
I didn't understand your picture without your explanation. Try perhaps drawing from a child's perspective as he is reaching into his backpack to grab a gun and everyone in his classroom is rendered as those from the game. That way your arugment of video games distorting ones minds and leading them to violence would be better shown.
oh, and I do not agree with you. The real issue behind why our youth are so hostile most deffinitly goes to a deeper source than video games.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 5:39 pm     Reply with quote
thank god for messages like this. without you and the us government, violent video games would surely have hypnotized me into killing someone.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 9:11 pm     Reply with quote
Counter Strike is a camper's game. You wait till you can snipe someone. This has no fun.

... Quake 3 forever !!! Twisted Evil lol
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 10:26 pm     Reply with quote
Quake 3 rox Twisted Evil



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2002 11:15 pm     Reply with quote
Is that actually how you draw or were you just trying to make a point by drawing like a 12 year old? Oh and I agree with FLAT, CS rox joo!!!1. But Natural Selection ROx joo m0r3 (excuse me. my L33tspk is weak).

Seriously don't give in to the myth and hype of media violence, unless Senator Lieberman is your GOD.

For a different perspective, outside of the mainstream, read :

http://communication.ucsd.edu/tlg/123/jenkins.html
http://www.NewMediaStudies.com/effects1.htm
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 3:17 am     Reply with quote
still got 2 play NS, but will get round to it eventually

btw Flat u didn't say which servers u play on so i can come deagle ur awping ass Very Happy

Timon Q3 died 2 months after it came out, everyone went back to Q2... the only reason ID made the game was to promote the engine..
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:19 am     Reply with quote
Frankly, if you want to stop the violence, start with the parents. I visit a local cybercafe/game lan where I see some mothers basically drop off their kids for the day using the place like a daycare, all that they can play there is CS since the other kids there teach them to play it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:31 am     Reply with quote
Bob , did u ever seen the world cyber games ??? U say quake 3 died after 2 Months ??? u failed much. quake is now still the most played game in the world cyber games. And the Players dont think about stop playing this game.

I am not a Quaker as usual , im drawing the quake 3 logo often and stuff. Not the Game as the Game.

ugm my english Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 5:57 am     Reply with quote
Violence is in one's mind.

And btw, CS teaches kids to kill but Q3 not, or what?

edible snowman, you're right. Thanks to all the people that want to protect us from our selves...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 7:13 am     Reply with quote
Ragnarok , I sad i dont play this game like others do.

But that wasn the topic !
Im talking about the kids ... counterstrike is full of them
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:46 am     Reply with quote
i know quite a few X Q3 players, a few who were in the top 10 in the country (UK) and if they say Q3 died after 2 months i believe them...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 1:56 pm     Reply with quote
CS is still maybe the most user friendly game there is, lots of servers, good ping and faster pace than most of the q3 mods. im not saying that q3 mods suck, but i prefer the normal "blow-yer-head-off" quake when i dont want to think anything. still, im not playing actively neither one of these games, mainly because there is countless number of those 12 year old idjits, and the number is rising. both playable in lan games, or if you can handle brainless massteenagers in a continuous flow Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 8:40 pm     Reply with quote
counter-strike is ok, but having to listen to the high pitched squeals of 12 year olds can get irritating. Anyways Natural Selection is much more entertaining. And altogether there are better games out there that arn't half-life mod related.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:09 pm     Reply with quote
I think it's human nature to be violent. Humans have been here for thousands of years and even with evolution and all we still fight each other over trivial things. Ultimately, we're all going to die at some point and maybe then cockroaches will take over. They don't seem to be warring with each other.

Imagine that though.. CNN reporting a cockroach war.

Anyway, good idea for your drawing. It's simple, but still the message isn't passed easily. Looking at it, I get the idea that bloods coming out of the computer. Upon further thought, I could correlate the video game and the blood to conclude that virtual violence leads to real blood. However, the connection between video game and children playing video games with violent content is lost. That's just my opinion. If a child was added to this image, the connection would be clearer.

Good work with it, but if you got time try and work a bit more with it.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 1:15 am     Reply with quote
Let's face the facts, kids, especially 'cos some of you guys are actually workin' in da biz:

COUNTER-STRIKE is the most successfull 3D-Shooter game ever, maybe with the exception of DOOM but that game has an extra-status since it's like the godfather of all 3D carnage. There's no other 3D-Shooter out there with such an amount of players online playing their game on a regular basis like CS. The last time I saw a statistic about game servers online there were more CS servers running like Q3 and UT together. Today, a LAN party without Counter-Strike would be like a christmas party without weed and crack. UNIMAGINABLE.

It's not a matter of age, CS is high in the favor of almost everybody doing online games around the world. OK, maybe in Korea folks prefer tactic games like Star Craft, but even there's a lot of CS gaming going on.

And all that despite of the fact the HL engine is fucking out of date.

Well, OK, I know what you're gonna say and I have to agree, mass appeal says basically shit about the quality of a product, that goes for games, music and other stuff... All I'm saying is gooseman and his crew did a fucking good job of creating the most popular 3D-Shooter in the history of 3D-Games and the tide is still pretty high for that game, earning Valve still a lot of money - soon to be more with further expansion sets and stuff, aka "Condition Zero". Counter-Strike doesn't suck, dude, the only thing that sucks is that it wasn't you who did that killer thing.

The whole violence discussion related to 3D-shooters is ri-fucking-dicilous, btw. If parents ain't able to take care of their kids, don't blame it on the media when they're becoming fucking retards. Always differ between the cause and the symptoms of an illness. 'nuff said.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 2:36 am     Reply with quote
still waiting for that IP Flat Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 3:14 am     Reply with quote
YUO WANNA CH4LLENGE ME OR WUT?!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2002 10:50 am     Reply with quote
I don't think games can change humans or something.
You won't kill someone because you played CS.

But I think it's a bad idea to play against someone in the net.
The RPG are much better because you play with people together to win against the computer. TOGETHER

Not running around and shooting and shooting without comunicate and some nice words to your friend.
You can also play against bots if you just SHOOT around...

Yes, CS is the most successfull 3D-Shooter game ever. But it isn't the best.
There are games which are million� times better. ( sorry flat )

IMO guys !
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 2:50 am     Reply with quote
CS is successful becuase of the 'team' work needed to complete a round, sure there are those who will camp and let the team down on a bomb map on a public, but clan matches are much more organinsed Smile

[DE.50]-LinColN Clan Desert Eagle .50, we only play with pisols and are currently 6-1 on Clanbase Smile you cant play with just deagles without skill and communication Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 3:54 am     Reply with quote
    Y3Z THAT's RITE YUO HAVE TO BE VERY CLEVAR AND POT3NT IN ORDER TO ROCK AND ROLL ALL DAY LONG IN COUNTAR-STRIEK, SWEET SUZIE!!1




    AND TEH OWN4GE AIN'T OVAR!!1

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