[Dr. Bang]

I might have to move to Holland and i'm just wondering if Dutch is a hard language to learn? Plus, is it possible to learn it within 1 years? I heard some people did it but it might be a lie.

[ June 02, 2002: Message edited by: Dr. Bang ]

[vigilo]

As an immigrant living in US, who learned the worlds simplest language - english i have to tell you that learning any language is impossible within one year.

You'll be able to converse simple things and understand what people are saying but you wont be able to speak freely within a year.

Unless you have some kind of background in it, but even then... its a little too little time.

[BloodStone]

You mean you're moving to the Netherlands? Or Holland?

[[Shizo]]

All things are relative. But i assume you mean knowledge of average conversational language, then it takes about 5-10 years
Plus Dutch isnt the easiest language around.

[Impaler]

Or you could concoct some genius formula and drink it and then learn Dutch from a napkin holder in 20 minutes.

You might like Dutchland, Bang. I hear the girlage is EXCELLENT.

[Dr. Bang]

fdasklfklfskl;df always get that messed up, its Holland.


ALWAYS!!!!! I'm AWARE OF TIHS GOD DAMN MISTAKE WHILE MAKING THE MISTAKE.

JESUS CRHIST I ACTUALLY WROTE "Is it hard to learn Holland? "

OMG , thanks for the replied though Any more ?

[Basse_Ex]

If you know some english, some german, and some scandinavian, then you can basically read most dutch... so I guess it's a huge plus if you know those languages. And if you don't... well... 1 year?

Sounds tough anyhow...

[[666]Flat]

I had English for fucking four years in school and I can't spell a single fucking word rite. 1 year? Well, DREAM ON, HOT SHOT!

[Impaler]

English is an obtuse and difficult language compared to Romantic languages. It's no wonder that so many Mexican immigrants have trouble getting higher than blue collar jobs.

You can seriously become fully fluent in Spanish in close to three years, yet it takes three times as long for someone to use English in more than a colloquial manner.

Buy a Dutch tutor, Bang.

[[666]Flat]

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Originally posted by Impaler:
Buy a Dutch tutor, Bang.

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And whilst your at it, make sure she swallows.

[Lapjos]

It is possible to learn a language in one year if you actually live in that country. I have experienced it; there were some exchange students in my school, all they could say in German was 'hallo'. After 11 months in Germany they spoke fluently.

But I think it is impossible to learn a language in one year just by studying. You have to use it in everyday situations!

Little hint: Best way to learn another language is 'to decode' the text. Eg you have a French course textbook + cd.

"J'ai dix-sept ans", the 'correct' translation is 'I am seventeen years old' but this is not the actual translation, that's 'I have ten-seven years', thus you decode as followed

J'ai dix-sept ans
I have ten-seven years

You read the English text and listen to the text on the CD and after doing this some time you can say the same things as the characters in the chapters without having to learn one word of vocab

I hope you have understood, if not ask.

[Minefield]

i've lived in germany for year and a half and i can't speak the language worth shit. i don't even know how to say i can't speak german very well in german.

[[666]Flat]

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Originally posted by Minefield:
i've lived in germany for year and a half and i can't speak the language worth shit. i don't even know how to say i can't speak german very well in german.

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A "Ich will Dir die Fresse polieren" will do the trick.

[Awetopsy]

I want you eat polish?

[Lunatique]

It took me roughly 2 years to get to the point where people thought I was born in the United States(I was born in Taiwan, and moved to California when I was 11).

You have to really mingle with the locals to get good fast. Don't hang out with people that speaks your native language, and you have to force yourself to read a lot of books in the language you want to learn. I loved fantasy and sci-fi, so it wasn't as painful to learn to read those. I learned a lot of English from reading Fighting Fantasy books.

Watching TV and movies helped a lot too. Thank God for HBO! At that age, HBO was like the most exciting thing in the world--all that sex and violence.

[edraket]

Dr. Bang.

My wife moved here two years ago (she used to live in Long Beach CA)
It took her about 10 months to learn dutch good enough to pass the test that she needed to do BA level college here.

Two things are very important...
1-have the money to do a good course. Most universities offer dutch classes. My wife spent about $2000 on those I think. If you are enrolled in the school it's a lot cheaper.
There is also free classes that are offered to immigrants. But those try to cater to anyone. Including any maroccan who never finished elementary school and has no grasp of our alphabet.

2- Have the time. Jessica spent those ten months going to class 4 half days a week.

3 Mingle. Unfortunately Jessica is kind of shy and it was very hard for her to be comfortable sounding like a retard. I've seen people that are more comfortable with that learn dutch on their own pretty fast.

It also depends on what you will be doing here. Everyone speaks english here. Many americans here never even learn the language. They don't need to.

Feel free to email me if you have more questions. I'd be happy to answer your questions about the country. Maybe point you to some dutch courses etc...

[edraket]

BTW Holland and the Netherlands are one and the same thing.
The netherlands is the official name. It's kind of like calling the US america.

And the girlage is indeed excellent : )

[Dr. Bang]

email = sent

[merlyns]

why are you moving too the Netherlands?:/

-david

ps Dutch is hard too learn take a good course and you�ll be fine

[vigilo]

Its funny how so many Americans think that English is a hard to learn language. Its so abstract its not even close to being hard. And mexicans don't learn it because they live with other mexicans and watch mexican TV. Same thing with Chinese, Russians and other folks in large cities.

There is a reason why english is unoficially worlds international language, its really easy. And no its not because America is GOD and everyone tries to follow the US way...

[Sukhoi]

What?

Sukhoi

[Chris]

Yup, if it is one thing the USA is good at, it is making things 'easy'

[Ragnarok]

I have to agree with that Chris.

And, Impaler, I've heard people who have passed three years learning spanish and they are everything but fluent. And also have many spelling mistakes.
Anyways, I have been learning english for many years and even though I have the First Ceritficated diploma and I aim at getting the Advanced, I wouldn't say I'm neither fluent nor good at writting. But I'm good reading (guess it's because all the web sites are in english )

-Ragnarok

[vigilo]

Sukhoi, I was commenting on a few posts above...

Chris, so Americans are inventors of english now?

[THE LAST GOONIE]

my parents are dutch, I dont have a fucken clue what the hell they're talking about half the time, but as edraket member # 4886 was saying, most of europe understands english so people should understand you anyway, also while your in rotterdam go visit the sex museum, it funny.

[The Magic Pen]

DR.Bang is Eatpoo forums down?? ...I can't see them anymore

[catahoochee]

*lol* [666]Flat - shame on you

[Dr. Bang]

Thanks for the replied guys, i'm gonna be in The Huage, hopefully its gonna be like Amsterdam!!!!1 I'm gonna take a 1 year language course to get me into Holland's college.

p.s: edraket is the greatest human being on the universe.


Magic Pen, it should be up now, TOO MUCH TRAFFIC OMG.!!!!

[edraket]

Hehe

The sex museum is in amsterdam. Not rotterdam.

Amsterdam isn't that great in my opinion. Just lots of tourists and stuff. Although it does have a few really great art museums.

The reasons people go to amsterdam:
1-Sex.. The red light district. There you can see old fat and wrinkly hookers in pink lingerie selling their "wares" in little windows. Not my kind of think. Kind of gross actually.
Actually Bang..you will be really close to scheveningen... the most famous beach in holland. If you want to see chicks...go there. Did I mention the bikinitops? The ones that stay in the bag? hehe

2- Drugs. Well duh! Marihuana is legal in holland. Just go into any exotic looking coffeeshop and get it.

So anyways..you'll do fine here.

[THE LAST GOONIE]

Amsterdam, Rotterdam...same thing!