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mza · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 1:37 pm

seen a lot of gouache interest in this forum... thought I'd share some.

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chickensoup · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 1:46 pm

Nice! Is that a flat brush you're using? Or a some kind of sable round?

-soup

jr · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 1:47 pm

these look cool molly, makes me want to do some gouache stuff too!

varnum · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 1:53 pm

these are great. reminds me of Robert Henri's work. were these from life or photographs?

mza · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:06 pm

hey thanks guys,

soup- it's a flat synthetic acylic brush, and a tiny tiny round watercolor brush at the end for things like glasses.

jr.- Do it! And try the holbein acryla gouache.I've been mixing it with what's left of my WinsorNewton... I'm switchn' over.

varnum- from life..about an 1.5 to 3hrs.
I paint slow.

chickensoup · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 2:32 pm

hey mza,

I'm thinking about taking that narrative painting class with craig in the fall. It's also my last semester. I was wondering if you took it when you went to the school and what you thought of it? I'm also tempted to do the entire class in digital too, or is that kind of dorky? It's mostly because ever since I got this new computer, I've been so lazy about getting out the paintbox laying paint out . . .

-soup

pixelsoldier · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 3:20 pm

Stupendous. Very inspiring. Thanks for posting!

mza · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 3:33 pm

Narrative painting was my favorite illustration class. You will learn a lot from Craig N. Good thing you waited till your last year, it's a definite portfolio class if you treat it as such. That class kicked my @$$ because everyone in there happened to be the best of the best in my graduating class, and everyone wanted to do well.

As far as a digital class, I personally don't think it's worth it. The info you'll get from this forum is far more informative, don't waste your money.

The best painting/drawing teacher I had was Zou Ming Wu. If you get what he's saying... you'll realize he knows his stuff, all of it will carry over to digital. I'm just begining to grasp all the things he's told me.

As far as going digital in Craig's class, that may not fly with him. Maybe,you could try what I do... do the color study in PS (a.k.a. speed painting) and then do the finish piece tradionally.
I did a 3x3 ft. oil painting recently, but worked out the composition and color in PS. I learned a lot, and it helped a lot. You'll get the benifit of both worlds.

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jr · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 3:38 pm

so you think it's better than the wn gouache? is it different than normal acrylics? or does it handel like gouache?

chickensoup · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 7:06 pm

thanks mmza! Yeah, last semester, towards the end I started taking my notebook computer into craig's quickstudies class and he was cool with it. Mostly because he wanted to prove to a bunch of geeks that what you learn traditionally carries over into digital and that two are no different. It was cool because he would critique the PS stuff the same way he would critique normal quickstudies painting. I just had to print everything out on a fiery whenever I wanted the stuff critiqued . . .

thanks for the info

-soup

worm · Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2002 7:29 pm

awesome.. your work is very ispiring
i have a couple questions.. you use just one brush? doesnt that get tedious?
and what do you use for a palette?

mza · Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 8:51 am

no prob. soup

Enjoy school, you'll have the rest of your career to be a "working" artist, and have all creative energy drained out of you.

jr. - try out a tube & see if you like it. It's just like gouache, but dries perment like acrylics...you can't lift back up which is what I like...forces more confident strokes.

worm- I think it's more confusing having too many brushes. Even with oil paint I limit myself to 3-4. Probably the reason why my colors are more muted. As for pallette, any plastic surface. Most important thing is to have a small spray bottle handy.

One more for the road:

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Lunatique · Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2002 7:57 pm

Super cool, Molly.

Hehe, your comment about being a "working" artist made me laugh. God it's so true. I'm loving my sabbatical because I get to paint whatever the f%@k I want to paint.

spooge demon · Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 12:29 am

nice gouache! I have to try that. Have not touched it in years.

Say hello to Craig Nelson for me. I am sure he does not remember me, I think I got a C or something from him.

mza · Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2002 11:38 pm

hey thanks rob,
Man,I wish I could afford to take a sabbatical, living in the bay area and all... well you know how that goes. I'm still learning a lot, so I don't really mind being told what to paint, it's a great experience.

Spooge,
Thank you, and thanks for posting all your beautiful watercolors! I get frustrated with transparent mediums, yours inspire me to give it another try.

Curious, did you go to school with Eric T.? I had met him once a while back, and he said to say hi to Craig too. I think Craig would be proud to know his former students are doing so well. Hopefully, someday I will be able to follow in your guys foot steps

I'll be sure to say hi!