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Nilwort member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 319
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Posted: Mon May 06, 2002 10:33 pm |
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Well, I bought Morrowind, been playing it a while it's pretty fun even though it runs like crap...I blame it all on direct3d. What really pisses me off is that I have a 1400mhz CPU and a brand spanking new geforce 4 and it only runs well enough just to play with the visibility distance turned down super low and the shadows turned off...
Just when you think you have a stable/powerfull system for gaming and stuff, either a new fun resource-hog game is released or f*cking nvidia releases a new graphics card every six months rendering your old one completly useless...maybe I should just stop being so obsessed with computer games...
has anyone else been able to run it allright? Any performance tips? |
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gLitterbug member
Member # Joined: 13 Feb 2001 Posts: 1340 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 4:09 am |
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I haven�t got it yet, Amazon needs to ship it yet. I hope I get it this week though.
But it won�t really run on my pc anyways I think - oh well time for a new one. But I wanna wait for the new next-gen Matrox Card that is to be announced soon I hope.
I hope the game is really as fuckin great as everybody says  |
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pixelsoldier member
Member # Joined: 18 Dec 1999 Posts: 728 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 6:13 am |
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What GeForce4 card do you have bro?
Edit: if it's an MX series card, I can understand your frustration. :P
[ May 07, 2002: Message edited by: pixelsoldier ] |
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Coaster member
Member # Joined: 19 Feb 2002 Posts: 508 Location: Canada
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 6:56 am |
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Actually, I read somewhere that GeForce4 MX cards are the same as the GeForce3 card.
That shouldn't be tooo bad of a problem, its probably a ram or directx prob. |
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gLitterbug member
Member # Joined: 13 Feb 2001 Posts: 1340 Location: Austria
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 7:14 am |
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GF4 MX != GF3
Geforce 4 MX has a way to accelerate vertex shader a bit by it�s drivers, but it does have NO pixel shader support!
MX = crap imho.
One question though:
Does Morrowind (or DirectX) do pixel shaders in software when you don�t have a hardware device that can do �em? If yes it would explain if there is a huge slowdown, but I don�t really think thats the fault. |
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Dr. Bang member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2001 Posts: 1425 Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 8:48 am |
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quote: Originally posted by Coaster:
Actually, I read somewhere that GeForce4 MX cards are the same as the GeForce3 card.
That shouldn't be tooo bad of a problem, its probably a ram or directx prob.
errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr no, GeForce4 = GeForce2 |
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pixelsoldier member
Member # Joined: 18 Dec 1999 Posts: 728 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 10:51 am |
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Yea, bang is right.
The MX series of G4 cards are utter crap. Utter crap. Utter crap. Point taken?  |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 1:13 pm |
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MX isnt crap, it's just a cut down version to sell it for cheaper than regular and Ultra. |
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Impaler member
Member # Joined: 02 Dec 1999 Posts: 1560 Location: Albuquerque.NewMexico.USA
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 1:19 pm |
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Pfft. I have a Voodoo3, and I can run PacMan FINE. I don't see what you guys are complaining about. |
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Dr. Bang member
Member # Joined: 04 Dec 2001 Posts: 1425 Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 1:22 pm |
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Shizo, its not even a cut down version. It uses the same old GeForce2 chip......sure its fine, but they shoulnd't have called it a GF4 |
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Nilwort member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 319
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 1:54 pm |
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I spent the money on a geforce4 ti4600...it's a kick ass card for the money you have to pay. It's insane because switching to really high resolutions doesn't even effect the framerate, If I run a game at 50fps in 640x480 it'll run the same in 1600x1200 or above! The refresh rates in those higher resolutions really ugly though, so I don't really go above 1600x1200...
Yeah, Those MX cards SUCK! if anyone is thinking of buying an MX...DON'T! I actually had an MX for a week untill I sold it. I was hoping to replace my geforce 2 gts with an MX420. The geforceMX420 was slower than my old card! The fullscreen anti-aliasing was faster...but who cares about that if you can't run it higher than 640x480 due to it being crappy...
I think my problem with morrowind is my CPU...my graphics card is spitting out all these pretty graphics at high resolutions on the screen with ease as my CPU is struggling to keep up with all the AI and calculations going on in the background and starts to get bogged down...oh well...maybe I just need a new hobby or maybe even *gasp* a life!  |
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pixelsoldier member
Member # Joined: 18 Dec 1999 Posts: 728 Location: Ontario
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 2:04 pm |
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Heheh, seems as though everyone is against you in this, Shizo.
Nilwort, yea, it surely isn't your video card. That's a slick card. How much RAM do you have, and what type? Intel or AMD processor? I just have a hard time believing that a 1400mhz CPU has THAT much trouble with Morrowind. I'm only running an Athlon XP 1800+ and the game runs flawlessly. :/ |
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mythwarden member
Member # Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 124
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 8:01 pm |
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Man...that game was fun as hell to work on. So much design and hard work was put into it. I don't think I've ever seen a more detailed game.
Damn it was cold up in Maryland though. I had my own office with a gigantic window at one point while working at Bethesda and man...I remember having a hood, trench coat, and gloves on in that office while working on that damn game. I don't remember if the heater was broken or what. I just remember seeing my breath and hallucinating about a woman named "Rose" the whole time.... :P
-myth |
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Nilwort member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 319
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Posted: Tue May 07, 2002 11:55 pm |
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pixelsoldier: I've got 2 256 meg DDR sticks of Crucial RAM and an AMD processor on an ABIT KG7 motherboard...the game runs ok...it's just I can't crank the visibility distance up that far without it slowing down to around 20 fps, especially in the populated towns and stuff...
Here's some screens of my morrowind adventure so far (about a 500k download if you can handle it)...
Some of the armor looks really cool in the game...
Sandstorms are bad...
High poly thorny plant-type things in sandstorm!!!
The interior of some of the buildings look really welll designed..
Some of my loot that I keep in this guy's house cause it's too heavy to carry around, for some reason I've been collecting candles and little demonic statues....
Some scrolls and some weapons...
[ May 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nilwort ] |
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gLitterbug member
Member # Joined: 13 Feb 2001 Posts: 1340 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 12:21 am |
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DAMN, I don�t want to wait any longer, but that damn amazon didn�t ship the game yet
Morrowind is a game I really would�ve loved to work on. I think the devs can really be proud of it. |
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Nilwort member
Member # Joined: 26 Jan 2002 Posts: 319
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 1:05 am |
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I ordered it from ebgames.com and it shipped on may first! Shipped the day that it was sent to retailers I believe...
[ May 08, 2002: Message edited by: Nilwort ] |
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gLitterbug member
Member # Joined: 13 Feb 2001 Posts: 1340 Location: Austria
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 1:50 am |
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But you live in US I assume, not in Europe :/ |
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[Shizo] member
Member # Joined: 22 Oct 1999 Posts: 3938
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Posted: Wed May 08, 2002 6:50 am |
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1337 l3wt!! I like the feel of the game, but i dont wanna try it cause i might get sucked in and i'm real busy now
It's good that it's ot multiplayer, otherwise it would be like EQ |
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