Sijun Forums Forum Index
Log in to check your private messages
My Profile Search Who's Online Member List FAQ Register Login Sijun Forums Forum Index

This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.
   Sijun Forums Forum Index >> Gallery/Finished Work
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author   Topic : "YE GODS!!! Self Portrait"
DarkGarden
member


Member #
Joined: 19 Jan 2001
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 4:20 pm     Reply with quote


How horrid is it to paint your own head? Yikes.

Anyway, loose and fast, with a tiny reference from the webcam, but there's the first full Tablet piece.

C&C, I'm getting the preliminaries hopefully.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
madmouth
member


Member #
Joined: 19 Dec 2001
Posts: 180
Location: elsewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:30 pm     Reply with quote
very cool. looks like a blurred photo, but painterly. I've no doubt it looks much like you
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail AIM Address
Dr. Bang
member


Member #
Joined: 04 Dec 2001
Posts: 1425
Location: DENHAAG, HOLLAND

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 9:36 pm     Reply with quote
W O W!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Light
member


Member #
Joined: 01 Dec 2000
Posts: 528
Location: NC, USA

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 10:50 pm     Reply with quote
Well, I imagine this painting to be "accurate".

However, this a good time to bring up up the lesson of why you should not draw you see.

The lighting isn't too good and the colors are not very exciting. The picture is blurry with no focus and not very interesting.

On the positive side the anatomy looks good, propertions are correct and form is revealed by shade.


A quick study is to re-inforce your paint strokes, light, add more colors, and contrast esp in the eys, nose, mouth area.

Study Sargent, Hals, Rubens..

I may do a paint over to see if I can make it more exciting.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
PixHortHiT
member


Member #
Joined: 22 Oct 1999
Posts: 268
Location: The part of sweden closer to hell

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:13 pm     Reply with quote
For gods sake, its a selfportrait, and a very good one at that, so what if it is badly lit and colored, and why should it be more interesting, when it is a mere portrait of one self?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Robert Ashley
member


Member #
Joined: 08 Oct 2001
Posts: 170
Location: Florida

PostPosted: Wed Jan 09, 2002 11:23 pm     Reply with quote
What the hell program did you use? I like the fact that ever stoke you did has three lines to it! (well some have four or five)

I use photoshop...is there some neat trick you did to get that effect?

Thanks for any info in the future!

[ January 09, 2002: Message edited by: Robert Ashley ]
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
DarkGarden
member


Member #
Joined: 19 Jan 2001
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 4:49 am     Reply with quote
Actually Light, I studied Rubens at the same time as I got a bit more in depth with Caravaggio and Botticelli. I much prefer the brushstrokes and trompe l'oeil involved with the older painters, but I know what you're aiming at. Great suggestions on who to look for for a more refined composition and great subject matter and light structure.

PixHortHit nailed it when he (she?) said that it was just to be a study of self portraiture, making the lighting a touch more dynamic than the reference while working out the forms in what wasn't to be too in depth (rough strokes are a no no in finished work for me). I do appreciate the crits though.

I agree on the subject being less than exciting, though the composition and balance seems appropriate. Pretty boring head, but it's the only one I have Feel free to do a paint over, as it's public enough territory though. I'd be interested in how you view portraiture especially in this case

For the nice compliments, thanks guys, but I can handle some critiquing too...honest.

Robert: I used Painter Classic for this, still new to it, but some of the oil based brushes have a really nice texture and blend to them. It reminds me of actual painting at times. Too many years on canvas has made me soft to the ways of the tablet though

I love Photoshop, but Painter obviously excels for the medium.

As for looking like me, hopefully, though I find it a bit sickly looking (no..I'm not..really..no matter how long I work in front of this glowing box...honest) and the head seems stretched out somehow in a way I didn't notice until after it was mostly done.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
DarkGarden
member


Member #
Joined: 19 Jan 2001
Posts: 83

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2002 1:22 pm     Reply with quote
~lmao~

Not another discussion on what is, and what isn't art...

Nonetheless, yes a study, no not interested in changing it for that very reason. Improving the overall work, yes.

I'm sorry that you didn't manage to create anything of merit from this, I would have really enjoyed seeing your perspective. As for invention, well that's an inner monologue you have going, so I'd suggest an inner debate as well. Thanks for getting in on the thread, though Light.

I'm almost inspired to do a new piece based on this..but...it's my head, and I'm nowhere near that narcissistic.

heh

Keep tearing, and if someone could mention some of the finer points of Painter I'd be much appreciative, I'm just starting with it and it still feels a little odd after "airbrushing" for so long with PS and a mouse.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Light
member


Member #
Joined: 01 Dec 2000
Posts: 528
Location: NC, USA

PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2002 12:40 am     Reply with quote
I spent about 5-6 hours trying to do a nice portrait based on a sketch from this but I couldnt get anything that I was happy with -- but I learned quite a bit in working on it so it was worth it anyway.

I think this picture was just a sketch for a study so it is not all that important. But, the point that was made was that one should not draw exactly what they see -- rather they should make it a painting or work of art.

The artist should conceptualize the forms, invent the light sources, costume, colors, and forms.

This "portrait" would look a lot better if the head was drawn from another angle, the shoulder line was moved (it sucks), and the chair was either removed or made to be more interesting.

That is the different between art and just a picture.

Sargent makes it look easy but actually his style is very hard to get right.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Sijun Forums Forum Index -> Gallery/Finished Work All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum




Powered by phpBB © 2005 phpBB Group