[-- Transcendent --]

Hey Everyone,

This isn't the most original picture you'll ever see (it could be, though, the most unoriginal picture you'll ever see, judging it by it's degree of archetypical clich�), but creativity aside, these pictures are fun to make anyway



Done in 3d studio max.

Criticisms are whole-heartedly welcome. (I know, btw, the trees are way to small - do those bother you ?)

[HellSpawn]

I love the lighting you used for this piece. Good job.

[-- Transcendent --]

Thank you

[ October 19, 2001: Message edited by: -- Transcendent -- ]

[Tweeder]

is that Xandau? Looks a lot like the intro to Citizen Kane.

that aside .. it's fuckin terrif! (I have moments where I just go british, pardon me chap)

[Brain]

Done in Max? *gasps*

Can I see a wireframe, pwease? @:-D

[Anthony]

Excellent work, beautiful. I think, like the others, that the house and the tree could use some back light. The sky seems a little undefined-maybe clean up the clouds a bit. You could get a really cool sky, I can picture it now. :] The tree seems to go very cleanly into the ground. Try thinking about how it enters the earth. Overall incredible work!
-Anthony

[ex]

i like it. and it looks like it could be an oil painting

[-- Transcendent --]

Thanks, everyone.

Tweeder : Citizen Kane has always been one of those movies I want to watch but never go about doing ... I'll put my mind to getting the VHS one day.

Brain : Here
Hereyou go. It's not a too pleasent a sight, mind you.

Anthony : Thanks, I've cleaned up the sky a tad and added backlighting to the castle as you suggest - tiny, insignificant changes, really, here

[Matt Ryan]

did you render this in scanline, or brazil, it seems like you have some nice GI goin on

[-HoodZ-]

wow it didnt look like a 3D render...hmmm maybe add something in the foreground....bah but what do i know...

[silber]

much praise
how about a criticism?
I think the ground and the sky make it looks like a model.
the ground because it looks a bit monotonious.
I think theres is no variaty in texture.
The sky because it's so saturated which is pretty unusal-if you add more grey value in the far-away-parts of the sky it would do a great job.
The tree in the foreground looks like it melts with the ground.
besides it's looking great-didn't think it was done with max

[ October 21, 2001: Message edited by: silber ]

[-- Transcendent --]

Matt : It's good ol' scanline ...

-HoodZ- : The "focal point"'s supposed to be the manor - so I'm rather hesitant about adding foreground stuff ... then again, it is rather bland ...

silber : Thanks very much for the much needed criticism !

I'll try adding texture variations ... it's kinda monotonous, you're right about that. The oversaturation here's a bit of an overkill - I know, but desaturating it makes it look even stranger - so this'll have to do.

Also, I'd like some elaboration what you mean "I think the ground and the sky make it looks like a model" ... Are you talking about the lack of depth and scale ? Or the fact they look "3d" ? Any ideas how that can be corrected ?

[Tiger Eaten]

I feel the need to respectfully disagree with you Silber (though I do appreciate your attempts to help -- Transcendent --) I think his textures are bang on and beautifully detail the image for it's current resolution. I don't understand what you mean by "it looks like a model", at any rate I took this to be Photoshop at first AND second glance. I have no crits about the color either but have to admit that that's not my strong suit. I especially like the mansion/castle, wonderful detail, very movie-esk. Excellent work.

[Soliciouse]

I like the motion, the wave on this picture

I like that color

[silber]

sorry for not replying that long
-First of all excuse my bad english-
With model I meant it looks like a small version of a big one - hope this was more understanding
Yes I think the feeling of depth could be better-it's good right now- but if you place
some rocks and stuff (like the trees) in the scene (only a very few) this could make a great job.
Edit: another point why it lacks of depthness (for me) is that the colors of the foreground are nearly as saturated as in the background-->I think this is really hard to fix because you will need a good renderer and lightning to fix that-try brazil-it's a very good renderer which can do global illumination.
Edit end-
I don't think that you should add greynesss to the whole sky, I just think that you should add greyness to the areas where the horizone meets the sky.
Now it looks a bit surreal-if thats it what you wanted to achieve-it's great
hope this was any help.

-Tiger eaten: no problem-in fact it's just my humble opinion-other people other opinions

[ October 24, 2001: Message edited by: silber ]

[blunt3d]

awesome pic. me likes the mood.

[Malachi Maloney]

That strait looks like a painting. I would have never guessed it was 3D. Great work.

MDM

[Jezebel]

What Malachi said... that is really stunning. Can't believe I missed it before o_O

[jcFIG]

Wow, 3-D and photoshop, probably some painter (i'm guessing of course with regards to the photoshop and painter). Did I mention this is one stunning image! Great work man. My hats off to you, a kick-ass background painter. Where do you work and who for?-Inquiring minds want to know.

[-- Transcendent --]

Wow ! My dead thread has just been brought back to from the dead That was unexpected ...

Tiger Eaten : I appreciate your take on the matter. The texture does look a little bland - namely that of the manor, where it starts becoming monochromic/flat, well, to the least, that's how I saw his criticism. Thanks otherwise, very much.

silber : Rocks - good idea, but I can't add any more trees (or large trees anyway) or I will damage the composition Also, the saturation of the sky has nothing to do with the renderer (it's the sky) and as much as I like Brazil, I can't imagine GI doing much for this scene - considering it doesn't rely too much on accurate HRDI shadows and radiosity ... I understand your point on the saturation, but unsaturating the sky (the horizon, to put it more clearly) does make the scene look a tad drab (I've tried doing it in Photoshop), so I'll stick with what I have

blunt3d : Thanks

Malachi Maloney, Jezebel : Thanks again. Crossing the fine line between paintings and 3d art without "artsy brush" photoshop filters was just my intention here.

jcFIG : No painter, sorry, this is strictly max and PSP (I have PS, but I hate it's loading times) ...

Oh, and regarding my professional carrer, I'm just a student hobbyist (not art school, for the record) - this image's meant to be a "matte painting" for a community film project in Ireland - I just volunteered for the fun of it (as with the rest of cast and crew). Thank you very much, though, I'm honestly flattered by that remark !